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Cybermonkey
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15th Jul 06 at 02:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

just read this review in my Motor mag, they are the same machines as sold in the UK, labelled as the Focus ST220 and VXR Astra.
they ramble on about the pros and cons of each car, but what astonished me is the speed of the damn things.

HSV Astra
0-100 km/h - 5.29 secs
1/4 13.42 @ 176.8km/h

Focus XR5
0-100 km/h - 5.41 secs
1/4 13.52 @ 174.9km/h

those are astonishing times for a standard FWD Turbo car.

BTW they preferred the Astra to the softer Focus
SetH
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did they do the timed runs themselves?
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They seem about 1sec quicker than the UK ones.
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They seem like bullshit imho
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quote:
Originally posted by SetH
They seem like bullshit imho there is no way a 220bhp fwd of that size and weight is doing those times, thats evo territory






[Edited on 15-07-2006 by Steve]
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i suspect cybermonkeh is on a wind up, i cant seem him being that dense.

or the publication he has oozes queerness on many levels.
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its about as quick as a V8 ute too

these figures are quoted by Motor mag, the largest of the car mags in Australia, testing using very expensive timing equipment on a closed circuit and strip
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http://www.rehame.com/printclips/2006-07-14/NATMOTOR//p11212041.pdf

there you go, at the bottom
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http://www.volkswagengolfgti.com/stuff/vxr_vs_xr5t.pdf

or here
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anyone got a recent copy of EVO mag, wonder what they tested them at.
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yeah but no but yeah but no EVO is for gayz and CTR ownerz
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EVO is the don as far as im concerned.
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They're 1/6th quicker to 62 than the Uk versions, must be something different

Still for a FWD car to put that amount of power down you don't expect good standing star ttimes
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must be something different



the country they were tested in. the difference in climate would make a difference.... they were probably tested in colder conditions or something.
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quote:
Originally posted by Ry_B
must be something different



the country they were tested in. the difference in climate would make a difference.... they were probably tested in colder conditions or something.


Australlia is a hotter country than the UK, turbos like cold air, meaning if anything the UK results would be quicker...
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not if it was summer here. think about it.
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where they test, further inland, daytime temps can be as low as 12-15 degrees... its only 18 here at the moment. and snappy cold mornings down to 3-4 degrees.

Look i dont care what the punters say, all the data was recorded on a VBOX, which are fucking accurate to say the least.

http://www.racelogic.co.uk/?show=VBOX

these times are superb , but i agree there must be another factor as to why they went so quick during testing.
on another note, the Mazda 3 MPS is meant to be even quicker thanks to launch control and a nice LSD.
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quote:
Originally posted by Cybermonkey
where they test, further inland, daytime temps can be as low as 12-15 degrees... its only 18 here at the moment. and snappy cold mornings down to 3-4 degrees.


Personally, I think even if the temps were around 18 degrees that there is no way two different cars would shake a second off their 0-60 time
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why dont you read the complete post before quoting it...

"... but i agree there must be another factor as to why they went so quick during testing."
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I did read it, it was for the benefit of other people, eg Rob.
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cold air temps would not knock 1-1.5 seconds off their 60 times lol, i think its a mis print or sometimes cocked up the times somewhere, they should be 6.xx



[Edited on 16-07-2006 by Steve]

 
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