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Author Idle components (x16xe)..and cleaning Help.
Rob B
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13th Mar 06 at 13:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Hi guys, just generally wandering what are all the components that make your car idle, obvoiusly, ICV and TPS are two of the main ones but im sure there are other things aswell...

Thanks in advance

[Edited on 14-03-2006 by Rob B]
mitch2
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13th Mar 06 at 14:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ecu, water temp sensor
Dave A
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13th Mar 06 at 20:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

practically every sensor and component on the engine affect idle.

air temp sensor
idle control valve
throttle posision sensor
crank sensor
cam sensor
map sensor
egr system

thats just the basics
Rob B
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Ok well its had, new crank sensor, new EGR valve, new Map sensor, and im going to go and fit another ICV tonight after ive cleaned it first

Whilst im there is it possible to clean the throttle postion sensor does anyone know ?

Also where is the Air temp sensor on a x16xe , is it the bit that goes into the inlet pipe.
5chaap2k
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14th Mar 06 at 14:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

the ICV and TPS are the main parts

tps cant be cleaned, but shouldn't get dirty either

icv is the most dirty one of them all

this is a pict of an icv that's been in the car for 3 month's and a cleaned one

Rob B
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hmm yes, the one i have at the moment looks like the one on the right and the one i have spare ive cleaned up looks like the one on the left, but the one on the right still doesnt look very filthy to me oh well ill fit this one and if it doesnt sort it ill go buy a TPS, its had a new EGR, new Crank sensor, new cts, new map sensor so far

Only other symptoms are sometimes coming down the revs when the engine is doing the brakeing it will just roll and the engine will stop brakeing and then it will cut back in again and start engine brakeing again if that makes any sense at all.
5chaap2k
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14th Mar 06 at 14:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

EGR is expensive

try taking it of, and cleaning or blanking it off (search here) if u blank off just 1 hole of the 2 it thinks it still works and doesn't get dirty or stuck anymore

[Edited on 14-03-2006 by 5chaap2k]
Rob B
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14th Mar 06 at 14:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i know i payed 120 quid for the fooker !

fitted a brand new one mate, think its cause of my dblias inlet, with your mantzel what fault code were you getting up on the ECU.

[Edited on 14-03-2006 by Rob B]
5chaap2k
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Exhaust Gas Recirculation valve

always happens with mantzel setups (mostly when u boot it)

but the ecu doesn't go in 'get u home' mode from it.. so this was my sollution for it


think the revcounter says enough about the engine spec
Rob B
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haha Wish someone could of told me that before i went and splashed 120 quid on a brand new EGR cause it was showing that fault code no ive got an idling problem FFS
5chaap2k
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14th Mar 06 at 15:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

check al tempsensors
icv
tps
sparkplugs ok? none white or black?
cleaning icv and throttlebody mostly helps however can't garantee

before:


after:




my 16xe gave up on me while on the speedway.. found a new cowboy sollution for it





[Edited on 14-03-2006 by 5chaap2k]
Rob B
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had new plugs about 500miles ago and the ones before were normal colour, all the throttle body is clean etc cause we cleaned it when we cleaned the ICV for the first time, must be either TPS or ICV its gotta BE !!!!
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I did used to get the odd fault code come up when i had a mantzel fitted (usually bouncing off the 7800rpm limiter) but 98% of the time the light stayed off. So it is possible to do

 
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