drunkenfool
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One of my flatmates at uni is suffering from this and had a pretty bad episiode tonight which lead to me almost starting on him cos he started getting violent with my flatmates (3 of which are girls). I hate to think that i made it worse by getting aggressive, but in the circumstances it was the only possible solution. i was wondering if anyone else here has any experienece with dealing with it? He's already been told that drugs and aclohol make it a lot more serious yet hasnt done anything to sort it out, despite friendly advice and being given the harsh truth. Please don't make any silly comments about this cos we are all actually pretty worried about him, getting to the point where we are considering telling the health service (he's already been told that if he doesnt give up the drugs etc then he might be sectioned. but we really dont want to do thast cos he's a really nice guy normally and this would mess up the rest of his life :S ) I know corsasport isnt exactly the best place to ask, but with the amount of people on here it might be worth a try!
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John
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Try and find somebody close enough for him to listen to but not close enough that they'll go mental when they hear he's been on drugs.
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drunkenfool
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mate we have all tried, ive been through the whole drug thing myself and come out a much better person after giving it all up, but he just wont listen. (not talking about smack or anything in case people are getting worried!  ) Even offered to go to councelling sessions with him, not sure what else we can do! Guess this is a bit depressing for this time of night... (or morning, depening how you look at it )
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eightball
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is he being aggressive because of illness or because he's a twat when he's drunk? how do you know he has schizophrenia? does he have a formal diagnosis? does he take any medication for it? my advice would be; if he becomes aggressive due to illness phone the police, who will have him assessed by psychiatric services (this does not necessarily mean detention). what age is he btw? whatever happens DO NOT AGGRESSIVELY CHALLENGE HIM - you have no idea whats going on in his head, or what he'll do. let those who are qualified to do so deal with it. if you have any more queries email me, or u2u.
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Edd
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get him sectioned, the only way for him to change is for him to get help
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Edd
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leverndale hospital has a good reputation vibrio got better in there
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Cosmo
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I dont have schizophrenia
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Cosmo
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I have schizophrenia
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Cosmo
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quote:
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I have schizophrenia
no i dont 
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gianluigi
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2 Andy Gorams, there's only 2 Andy Gorams!
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eightball
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Originally posted by Edd
get him sectioned, the only way for him to change is for him to get help
see where you're going, but like i said, it isn't necessarily driven by illness, therefore detention won't be an option/any use. oh, and gartnavel royal is where it's at...
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Edd
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Originally posted by Cosmo
Edd has schizophrenia
no i fucking dont
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James_DT
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Are you at Uni at the moment? You could pop along to the Student Counsellor and see what advise they have for dealing with him. Ours has a drop-in thing daily so you don't need to book or anything.
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drunkenfool
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Originally posted by eightball
is he being aggressive because of illness or because he's a twat when he's drunk? how do you know he has schizophrenia? does he have a formal diagnosis? does he take any medication for it? my advice would be; if he becomes aggressive due to illness phone the police, who will have him assessed by psychiatric services (this does not necessarily mean detention). what age is he btw? whatever happens DO NOT AGGRESSIVELY CHALLENGE HIM - you have no idea whats going on in his head, or what he'll do. let those who are qualified to do so deal with it. if you have any more queries email me, or u2u.
He was diagnosed with mild schizophrenia about 18 months ago, but has got worse in the last two months. As i said this is the second time ive seen him have an episode - he was screaminmg and crying, smashing chairs in the kitchen, and after we calmed him down he had no idea at all what was going on. I had a text off my flatmate lou while i was in the pub and i had to run home to sort him out cos she was too scared to leave her room.
He's not on medication at the moment and I dont want it to happen if its avoidable cos i know it will change his personality forever, but if it keeps happening then it might be the only way. He went to see some councellors over the summer, i think it might well do him some good to talk to someone who as you said, is qualified to help.
He smoked weed pretty much every day till about 3 weeks ago, did pills and mdma quite often too so maybe giving up the drugs, no matter how good for him in the long term it will be, has been part of the reason for the change in his personality.
We're all at uni, and yeah we have got a councelling/advice service here so i might go up there with my flatmates to have a chat with them about the whole situation too.
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i've just applied to be a mental health support worker!! had an interview last week. Sounds like your mate really needs help and the only place hes gunna get this is your local mental health service. schizophrenia doesnt just go away it will only get worse 
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eightball
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does he have regular contact with CPN's? i hear what you're saying about avoiding medication, but really, neuroleptics are much better for the client now than they used to be; newer atypical antipsychotics have much less severe side effects than the older phenothiazine derived drugs. at any rate, preservation of pre-morbid personality decreases with every psychotic episode, so doing nothing may just be as bad. whatever way you look at it, i think you need to contact student services, and in emergency, the police, or a doctor - it's unfortunate that he has this illness, but he is aware of it, and is no doubt more than aware off the negative effects of his drug taking; he has responsibility for this. either that, or the pychosis has gotten so bad that he's using these 'drown it out'. either way, it's something you can't/shouldn't be dealing with, without professional help.
[Edited on 24-02-2006 by eightball]
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drunkenfool
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Cheers for all the adivice guys, we've been up to see the councellors at uni and arranged an appointment for next week so we can talk to them about the best way to deal with it, I'm going up with 3 of the other flatmates to get some information. Unless there is another episode like last time then its going to be up to him to try and get some help, apart from us talking to him and trying to get him to do it for himself. See what happens I guess, but wishing the best for him cos i know what's happened isn;t just him being a dick, it's cos of an illness. Nice to know that there are some people on corsasport mature enough to actually give some good advice
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PMSL @ Cosmo
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Dont be around him if he drinks, trust me. If you have it then you turn into your nasty side after a few drinks, same with drugs. Don't talk to him if he is tired as it can come out then as well
Well done for seeing it as an illness when he is nasty, pisses me off that people think you are really being nasty but you cant help it if you are mentally ill
It will go away eventually with the right treatment and care. Perscription drugs don't help, they only mask it for a while and make you feel even worse, then if you have a turn it makes it worse
Best bet is to talk to a councillor, steer clear if he has a turn as being on your own does help. However if he is a cutter best to keep an eye on him during and after a turn.
Like eightball says its not your place to deal with it, but good on you for helping him take the first steps to recovering from it
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eightball
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ally; you're describing traits of another disorder - cutting on a regular basis has little/nothing to do with schizophrenic disorders. prescription drugs really, really do help - agreed, not with all disorders, but again, thats a different subject. also a common misconception is that people who have mental disorderers 'can't help being nasty'. mental illness is indiscriminate - it doesn't just affect 'nice people' - it can affect anyone. i suspect a counseller has no place here - some drug education, and some education about his illness maybe, however, i'm sure he is more than aware of the negative effects of excessive consumption of illicit substances on major psychiatric illness - he still has ultimate responsibilty for this. if, on the other hand his motivation for taking drugs is a decline in his mental health, he needs intervention to prevent it reaching crisis point. not meaning to step on your toes ally, merely stating fact.
agreed, it's good that 'fool is taking steps to help rather than a knee jerk reaction. hope it all works out.
[Edited on 25-02-2006 by eightball]
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i have experience with schizophrenia, not myself personally but someone very close to me. it can have fatal results, proffesional help is the ONLY answer
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