Adam_B
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this is the connection coming from my wall for the broadband (blueyonder)
old modem
this is the back of my wireless router.
what do i need to do or buy to make the cable from the wall fit the back of the router?
i have tried running the cable as normal into the old modem then into the new router then to the PC, works, but the other computer on the wireless network wont go online.
ta.
[Edited on 25-01-2006 by Adam_B]
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Ian
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Yellow wire on the modem to the DSL plug on the router.
If one computer works that way the other should. You need to do some tests on the computer that doesn't work.
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Adam_B
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doesnt fit
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John
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You've bought an ADSL router.
You need a cable one basically.
Send that back and get a wireless access point without a built in modem.
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Paul
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HAHAHA that is a ADSL router not a Broadband router. You will require a Broadband router.
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John
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quote:
Originally posted by Paul
HAHAHA that is a ADSL router not a Broadband router. You will require a Broadband router.
ADSL is broadband.
That router was probably labelled broadband.
If you buy a wireless access point the yellow cable will go from cable modem to a specific port on the AP and it'll do what you want.
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Adam_B
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dad walks into PC world,
'hello, i need a kit to setup a wireless network at home please'
pc world monkey 'there you go sir, you need one of these and one of these'
dad 'nice one baz.'
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MikeLamb
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Take that back, get a wireless router with no modem. They should understand that 
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MikeLamb
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Also, I would get a router not an access point, i doubt most acces points have dhcp a firewall and internet sharing built in
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Adam_B
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cheers guys
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PaulW
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adam... does the spec for the wireless rounter say the ports are 'auto sensing/switching'???
try pluggin the yellow wire in port 1 & see if it gets a link on the front & starts working... doubtful, but possible... before you do though, go into the router configuraytion & make sure DHCP and DNS are all turned off for LAN (not WIFI) if acailable
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Adam_B
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ive unplugged it now  i think wayne tried that tho the other day when he was here.
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PaulW
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ahh reet fair does!!
tbh... pc world are shit!!
what you want is a Wireless Access point...
something like this
http://www.pcworld.co.uk:80/martprd/product/BELKIN/F5D7130UK/886429
that will plug into the yellow cable from your modem & then share the connection...
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Adam_B
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but does it not matter about
quote:
Originally posted by MikeLamb
dhcp a firewall and internet sharing built in
not a clue what that even means
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Adam_B
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is this a wireless router with no modem?
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/store/pcw_page.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@1257267543.1138231140@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccegaddgklmllemcflgceggdhhmdgmh.0&page=Product&fm=null&sm=null&tm=null&sku=886496&category_oid=
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MikeLamb
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quote:
Originally posted by Adam_B
is this a wireless router with no modem?
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/store/pcw_page.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@1257267543.1138231140@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccegaddgklmllemcflgceggdhhmdgmh.0&page=Product&fm=null&sm=null&tm=null&sku=886496&category_oid=
That'll do it
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Ian
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quote:
Originally posted by PaulW
what you want is a Wireless Access point...
Connection still needs to be routed...
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Paul
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quote:
Originally posted by Ian
quote:
Originally posted by PaulW
what you want is a Wireless Access point...
Connection still needs to be routed...
As above also your broadband supplier will also see multiple MAC's and so you definately need a router
Sorry a bit more explanation, ths is a bad thing as they used to lock the ports on the DSLAM at exchange down by MAC address and you can only advertise 1 MAC.
[Edited on 26-01-2006 by Paul]
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Paul
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quote:
Originally posted by John
quote:
Originally posted by Paul
HAHAHA that is a ADSL router not a Broadband router. You will require a Broadband router.
ADSL is broadband.
That router was probably labelled broadband.
If you buy a wireless access point the yellow cable will go from cable modem to a specific port on the AP and it'll do what you want.
This is one of the major misconceptions between DSL services and Broadband services. Broadband is defined as a transmission medium capable of supporting a wide range of frequencies, typically from audio up to video frequencies. It can carry multiple signals by dividing the total capacity of the medium into multiple, independent bandwidth channels, where each channel operates only on a specific range of frequencies. How ever DSL is a completely different technology. It uses a truely digital method of transmiting the data.
ADSL is a service that uses currently inplace services such as a standard PSTN. This uses analogue frequencies over the PSTN to allow voice and data to be transmitted over the same line. This is one of the reasons that broadband is a far more superior technology over DSL services. As with DSL the higher the frequency you use to gain more bandwidth on the line, the closer to the exchange you need to be. This prevents signal degradation which broadband services don't suffer from as drastically as DSL services.
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Adam_B
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yes 
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MikeLamb
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quote:
Originally posted by Paul
This is one of the major misconceptions between DSL services and Broadband services. Broadband is defined as a transmission medium capable of supporting a wide range of frequencies, typically from audio up to video frequencies. It can carry multiple signals by dividing the total capacity of the medium into multiple, independent bandwidth channels, where each channel operates only on a specific range of frequencies. How ever DSL is a completely different technology. It uses a truely digital method of transmiting the data.
ADSL is a service that uses currently inplace services such as a standard PSTN. This uses analogue frequencies over the PSTN to allow voice and data to be transmitted over the same line. This is one of the reasons that broadband is a far more superior technology over DSL services. As with DSL the higher the frequency you use to gain more bandwidth on the line, the closer to the exchange you need to be. This prevents signal degradation which broadband services don't suffer from as drastically as DSL services.
thats just trying to sound clever, you dont need to know any of that 
Just swap the box to the one you mentioned earlier and plug it in. Job done.
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John
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quote:
Originally posted by Paul
quote:
Originally posted by John
quote:
Originally posted by Paul
HAHAHA that is a ADSL router not a Broadband router. You will require a Broadband router.
ADSL is broadband.
That router was probably labelled broadband.
If you buy a wireless access point the yellow cable will go from cable modem to a specific port on the AP and it'll do what you want.
This is one of the major misconceptions between DSL services and Broadband services. Broadband is defined as a transmission medium capable of supporting a wide range of frequencies, typically from audio up to video frequencies. It can carry multiple signals by dividing the total capacity of the medium into multiple, independent bandwidth channels, where each channel operates only on a specific range of frequencies. How ever DSL is a completely different technology. It uses a truely digital method of transmiting the data.
ADSL is a service that uses currently inplace services such as a standard PSTN. This uses analogue frequencies over the PSTN to allow voice and data to be transmitted over the same line. This is one of the reasons that broadband is a far more superior technology over DSL services. As with DSL the higher the frequency you use to gain more bandwidth on the line, the closer to the exchange you need to be. This prevents signal degradation which broadband services don't suffer from as drastically as DSL services.
I have to disagree.
I can go to http://www.bt.com/broadband/ and get broadband.
Its labelled as a ADSL/broadband router on ebuyer.
I could go and find a defenition somewhere that backs me up as well.
As far as about 99% of people are concerned ADSL is broadband.
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