Teddy
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This is on track handling of Bilsteins
Look at the lean on Konis...............
I was thinking about either or - but im stumpped now the Billies are defo out the question as that lean is to much - look at the rim!!!
Dont get me wrong i know you get what you pay for - but i need something reasonable that will perform well on the track.
The second set of pics which are konis look lots better and i know that each set up varies but still food for thought...........
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bradfincham
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konis with a higher poundage spring and whiteline arbs is the way to go
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mwg
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How can you really compare photos that could have been taken on different tracks, on different corners, at different speeds and also maybe different weights and engines?
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Teddy
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The load perhaps may be different the speed may be different your totally right!!!
but..............
The fundimentals are the same of how the suspension is performing and the bilsteins are concerning looking at that picture.
im never going to say "oh im not going on that track because my bilsteins are not suited"
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corsa120
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not bein funny but the bilstein novqa looks like its taking much harsher bend than rest of pics so how u comparing
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ed
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Your comparing suspension set ups with photos?
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mwg
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PMSL
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corsa120
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mmmm
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quote:
Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal
pmfsl 3cm ure on form today i jus spat coke out all over my keyboard and the MD was in the room
*awaits rob marriot to say stop being a ponce and get AVO coilovers a la 3mm rust*
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Pablo
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quote:
Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal
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Corsa E-Tec
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i was on koni's and eibach and never looked bak 
but now on koni fronts and spax RSX rears only coz i can adjust the rears while on the car 
[Edited on 30-09-2005 by Corsa E-Tec]
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Teddy
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quote:
Originally posted by corsa120
not bein funny but the bilstein novqa looks like its taking much harsher bend than rest of pics so how u comparing
But if the car was stiff it would not lean like that - regardless of the corner involved its still proving a point.
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3CorsaMeal
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Stabilizer bars are part of a car's suspension system. They are sometimes also called anti-sway bars or anti-roll bars. Their purpose in life is to try to keep the car's body from "rolling" in a sharp turn.
Think about what happens to a car in a sharp turn. If you are inside the car, you know that your body gets pulled toward the outside of the turn. The same thing is happening to all the parts of the car. So the part of the car on the outside of the turn gets pushed down toward the road and the part of the car on the inside of the turn rises up. In other words, the body of the car "rolls" 10 or 20 or 30 degrees toward the outside of the turn. If you take a turn fast enough, the tires on the inside of the turn actually rise off the road and the car flips over.
Roll is bad. It tends to put more weight on the outside tires and less weigh on the inside tires, reducing traction. It also messes up steering. What you would like is for the body of the car to remain flat through a turn so that the weight stays distributed evenly on all four tires.
A stabilizer bar tries to keep the car's body flat by moving force from one side of the body to another. To picture how a stabilizer bar works, imagine a metal rod that is an inch or two (2 to 5 cm) in diameter. If your front tires are 5 feet (1.6 meters) apart, make the rod about 4 feet long. Attach the rod to the frame of the car in front of the front tires, but attach it with bushings in such a way that it can rotate. Now attach arms from the rod to the front suspension member on both sides.
When you go into a turn now, the front suspension member of the outside of the turn gets pushed upward. The arm of the sway bar gets pushed upward, and this applies torsion to the rod. The torsion them moves the arm at the other end of the rod, and this causes the suspension on the other side of the car to compress as well. The car's body tends to stay flat in the turn.
If you don't have a stabilizer bar, you tend to have a lot of trouble with body roll in a turn. If you have too much stabilizer bar, you tend to lose independence between the suspension members on both sides of the car. When one wheel hits a bump, the stabilizer bar transmits the bump to the other side of the car as well, which is not what you want. The ideal is to find a setting that reduces body roll but does not hurt the independence of the tires.
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mwg
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Where did you cut and paste that from 3CM
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3CorsaMeal
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an aquarium advice forum
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mwg
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thought so
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