Colin
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The goverment has decided to stop payments to farmers who use their fields for motorsport events. This includes autocross, autograss, 4x4 and motorcycle off-road meets. Theis petition is to try and get the new rules changed.
http://www.petitiononline.com/som - Come on you lot , leave your mark
[Edited on 05-05-2005 by Colin]
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Colin
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DEFRA THREAT TO MOTOR SPORT
Local motor clubs throughout the UK face a threat
from new government regulations forbidding the use
of agricultural land for motor sport.
Rising rally co-driver Graham Raeburn said: "Lots
of grassroot motoring events throught the UK are
threatened by the latest countryside decree. Some
are events which have run regularly since pre-war
days and are part of motor sport heritage. It's the
biggest single threat we have faced as a sport in
years."
Club officials claim that the new regulations were
passed by Whitehall "without any consulation".
Farmers who currently permit motorcyle or car events
to use otherwise idle land (which has been designated
as 'set aside') will in future be allowed to hold events
such as local carnivals, horse events and pop
concerts, but motor sport will be specifically banned.
This will affect thousands of events for motorcyles,
whose governing body (the Auto Cycle Union) is said
to be "devasted".
For those competing on four wheels, the new
regulations will mainly affect more than 1,000
autograss events which run outside the remit of the
MSA (the UK's main motor sport governing body), but
about 40 per cent of club motor sport events
authorised by the MSA will also face restrictions,
including sporting trials, production car trials, 4x4
events and some rallies.
The new rules from DEFRA came into force by decree
last month, without any obvious consulation with the
hundreds of clubs who organise affected local events.
ends.
Endurance Rally Association
MSA Press Release
PRESS RELEASE
MSA tackles DEFRA threat to UK motor sport
The Motor Sports Association has vowed to fight all the way to Brussels to safeguard the future of nearly 50 percent of its sanctioned motor sport events after the government decided to stop subsidies to farmers who allow part of their land to be used, even temporarily, for any form of motor sport.
The MSA has joined forces with the governing body of motor cycle racing (ACU) and other affected parties to challenge the Government's decision, channelling its efforts through the Land Access & Recreation Association (LARA) of which the MSA is a founding member and major funder.
The Single Payment Scheme (SPS) replaces the Common Agricultural Policy and now pays farmers for the land they own, not what they produce. The European Directive on agricultural subsidies does not prohibit motor sports on land eligible for SPS. However, the Department for the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (DEFRA) has taken the decision, without consultation, to stop these payments to UK landowners if agricultural land is used, even temporarily, for motor sport.
Activities that will be particularly impacted are autograss, autocross, sporting trials, production car trials, 4x4 events and some rallies.
"We believe the current guidance from DEFRA to landowners is incorrect, is inconsistent with EU policy and fundamentally threatens the future of motor sport in this country. The MSA is a founding member and substantial funder of LARA and it is entirely appropriate that the concerted response of all interested parties to this threat is channelled through LARA. We hope to have a successful conclusion to our urgent dialogue with DEFRA, but should the need arise we are prepared to pursue this issue further," said Colin Hilton, Chief Executive of the Motor Sports Association.
Release MSA05-025: 20 April 2005
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Marc
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How about a live link kolin 
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Colin
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quote:
Originally posted by Marc
How about a live link kolin
How about you just do as your told for once 
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Marc
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I have
ps
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Colin
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ps xx
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RS6
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signed grr how can they do this 
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vibrio
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I agree with the goverment. why should the farmers get cash when they rent the fields out for motorsport.
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Ben
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i were at an off roading comp last night and a guy come around and i signed to stop them banning us riding off road.
as soon as someone has a bit of fun , some doogooder comes in and trys spoil it.
fucking arseholes
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bradfincham
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quote:
Originally posted by vibrio
I agree with the goverment. why should the farmers get cash when they rent the fields out for motorsport.
Thats wrong, its a small amount as have to pay for insurance, on the farm we used to oen had a motocross track car park, we had to pay insurance on the land and the people.
The defra payments are to encourage land to be left as set as side which means being out of crop production for 5 + years.
if you the farmers get a good deal your very wrong, we had to sell ours as couldnt afford to live, plus g-parents sold out as cant survive
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vibrio
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quote:
Originally posted by bradfincham
quote:
Originally posted by vibrio
I agree with the goverment. why should the farmers get cash when they rent the fields out for motorsport.
Thats wrong, its a small amount as have to pay for insurance, on the farm we used to oen had a motocross track car park, we had to pay insurance on the land and the people.
The defra payments are to encourage land to be left as set as side which means being out of crop production for 5 + years.
if you the farmers get a good deal your very wrong, we had to sell ours as couldnt afford to live, plus g-parents sold out as cant survive
nope still agree with the goverment.
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Jamie
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Local stock car racing "sunday" meet place are getting hit hard by this as well.
Wonder if they will shut Crail down?
No loss 
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vibrio
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bradfincham
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farmers have to have a certain % of there land set a side now, which is bad as the payments are no where near what the benefits of cropping that field are.
This will destroy motorsport, motocross, grass track, rallying, many ,many forms and i cant beleive that you think its a good idea!
Defra are a bunch of uni graduates that dont have a clue,
my dad was a chemical specialist before he fell ill and helped 100's of farmers gain a better yield each year, now defra say you cant use that spray, you cant do this etc etc, so the yields are going down each year, making the buffer zones larger so less land is in production!
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vibrio
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yes I remember when they banned DDT
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Rob H
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Surely you can see the governments point though? There being payed to let the land lie idle, but some people are pocketing the money and then earning more by renting it out. Ok, so i understand the farmers will proberbly loose out, but then, surely it can be made up by the people who use the land for the motorsport? I Dont pretend to know the facts with this, but im just giving an outsiders view. Ive no idea of the amounts of money that the farmers are given for renting out the land, or by the government for letting it lie idle.
Thing is though, it seems there singling out motorsport for no reason. Surely if they stop them renting out for one reason, then they should include all the other reasons too?
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bradfincham
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Basically if the same where i live,
city people - londoners move into the countryside with there huge houses, mercs etc etc!
They want it all quite and complain about everything. It doesnt take long for them to complain to council who try do something about it!
I have nothing against these high flying city people, just hate the way they come into the country and try and change it!
Like on the farm, a bloke watched me drive the combine 300+ yards down a field, took me 20 minutes id say!
Of course the dust blew into his garden and chaff into his pool!
So he rings my boss up and moans at me, TWAT !!
he shoulda covered the pool up right away!!
Anyway were getting way of the subject here
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