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Richie
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25th Nov 04 at 17:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

nah an aftermarket alarm system wouldnt make the engine management light flash. Its a problem on the vauxhall system
mike16v
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25th Nov 04 at 17:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

well ive phoned AA, so see what they say, but surely if the imob is cutting the fuel pump then that wud show as a fault on the vaux system?
Richie
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25th Nov 04 at 18:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

nope. The fuel pump circuit is unmonitored by the ECU. Its triggered by an ignition live.

AA are just gonna charge u a bomb mate to sort it oot.
mike16v
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26th Nov 04 at 01:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Update, just got home, the car is now home, after it had a nice ride on the back of a flat bed lorry. Not got it started, had the AA man, me, jacko, Dan (J100) came and tryed to help, and numourus other people, big thanks to every1 who has tryed to help out, esp jacko for all his time and effort

But it still wont run and im proper lost as to the cure, not looking like it will be making top100 this weekend. Absolutely gutted
Adam-D
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26th Nov 04 at 08:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

if j100 cant fix it
Richie
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26th Nov 04 at 08:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

if it was a vauxhall system/alarm problem im pretty sure i could sort it out.
Adam-D
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26th Nov 04 at 08:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i had that immob system flash on me and i fixxed it
"hence why i have pics"

if its a 1.2 8v btw i have a spare ecu transponder and 2 chips.
Richie
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26th Nov 04 at 08:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

when you need to do something like that, you only need to replace the chips and ECU. The sender around the ignition barrel isnt coded, unless it is the sender at fault.

[Edited on 26-11-2004 by Richie]
Adam-D
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26th Nov 04 at 08:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

would it be possible to bypass? i.e run 12v to fuel pump?
or does it cut the ignition side of it aswell?


oh where are the days of carbs gone
Richie
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26th Nov 04 at 08:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Like i said the ECU has no control over the fuel pump, its done by an ignition live. The fuel pump kicks in when uve turned the key to on, without even starting the car.

The ECU shuts off the injectors and the spark
Adam-D
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26th Nov 04 at 08:40   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

pretty effective the vaux system

im guessing his is a 16v looking at his user so id get a ecu chip and transponder from a similar engine "borrow one" to see if it fires up.

then its a case of sourcing a new one pernametly
Richie
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26th Nov 04 at 08:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

by the way mike, you dont happen to have remote start on your alarm do you?
boyracer2002
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26th Nov 04 at 09:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

nah he aint got remote start i dont think.
Mark is goin to his to either take dash out and start again and also bypassing the puel pump giving it a perminant live as its that whats cutting off wirth a go this morning - shame im workin this mornin or i would be over helping again
Richie
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26th Nov 04 at 09:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I very much doubt this has anything to do with the fuel pump. The fuel pump does not cause the engine management light to flash, as its circuit is cut by the aftermarket alarm. All it does is cut the feed to the red/blue wire. The ECU doesnt monitor it
Adam-D
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26th Nov 04 at 09:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i agree its somthing to do with vaux immob and or the ecu
Richie
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26th Nov 04 at 09:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

If the light is flashing at 1 second intervals then it means the ECU has shut down and the engine wont run, due to an immobilizer problem or major ECU fault. Im off out to my corsa now to see what i can do to replicate the fault.

I hope everyone checked for continuity on the wires to the code sender around the barrel? Only takes a small tug, they are thin wires..

[Edited on 26-11-2004 by Richie]
Jamie
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26th Nov 04 at 09:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Sounds like immobiliser
Richie
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26th Nov 04 at 09:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

In the meantime if anyone could u2u me Mike16v's mobile id be grateful
boyracer2002
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26th Nov 04 at 10:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

u2u sent mate.

the fuel pump is cutting off though altho like you said cant see that making the engine management light flash. Surely its worth bypassing for a go, if it breaks down then the AA can take him to the show
Richie
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26th Nov 04 at 10:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

How is the fuel pump cutting off?? If ur doing it just by listening to the pump, when u turn the ignition it only runs for a few seconds, thats totally normal
boyracer2002
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26th Nov 04 at 10:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Just wot the AA guy said lastnight - not come from my mouth
Richie
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26th Nov 04 at 10:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

The AA guys know fuck all. When my car broke down in bournemouth they said my gearbox was totally fucked and that were it. When i got home, it just needed oil and it went fine for ages

3 months later it went bang though
boyracer2002
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Adam-D
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26th Nov 04 at 10:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i have a fuel realy and spi fuel pump..........


although i still think its ecu/immob fault
mike16v
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26th Nov 04 at 12:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

right it totally stipped the dash and the lot back out again, ive tryed checking all the wires they seem fine, but i dont have a tester thingy to check there all getting power

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