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vibrio	posted on 8th Dec 05 at 12:32
	quote: Originally posted by Ian That is 16mm equiv Ross? I need a cheap 1Ds now 5D is out to go FF on with my 16-35 2.8L ;) 16mm equiv yes
R Lee	posted on 7th Dec 05 at 22:56
	canon 350d is dropping in price all the time.
Ian	posted on 7th Dec 05 at 21:06
	That is 16mm equiv Ross? I need a cheap 1Ds now 5D is out to go FF on with my 16-35 2.8L ;)
Ian	posted on 7th Dec 05 at 21:05
	You won't go that wide for £300 with a digital SLR. It'll get you something starter to learn on, but that technique either needs a modern mount, or an expensive lens, or in Ross's case, both.
vibrio	posted on 7th Dec 05 at 15:58
	quote: Originally posted by Butler can i get a decent slr camera within my £300 budget? no lol nikon D50 plus a lens, plus a memory card will set you back around £500 Konica Minolta Dynax 5D Digital SLR Camera with 18-70MM willset you back around £470 plus you'll need a memory card
Butler	posted on 7th Dec 05 at 14:18
	ok fuck that idea then
Melville	posted on 7th Dec 05 at 14:01
	No :)
Butler	posted on 7th Dec 05 at 13:57
	can i get a decent slr camera within my £300 budget?
Butler	posted on 7th Dec 05 at 13:44
	:! you must have some money to burn
vibrio	posted on 7th Dec 05 at 13:42
	SLR - single lens reflex. lens was £500
Butler	posted on 7th Dec 05 at 13:33
	how much is the lense? what is an slr?
vibrio	posted on 7th Dec 05 at 11:19
	it is a wide angle lense. on a digital camera the size of the sensor is usually smaller than the size of a film negative. so without going into too much detail my canon 20D sensor is 1.6x smaller than 35mm film so has the effect of increasing focal length by 1.6x. my 10-22mm lens (used above) has the 35mm equvilent of 16-35mm. so looking though my camera at 10mm is the same as looking through a film camera at 16mm. point and click camera have even smaller sensors which is why their lenses are not as long.
Butler	posted on 7th Dec 05 at 01:44
	hmm, im not familiar with all this photography jargon, i need to do some research
Ian	posted on 7th Dec 05 at 01:38
	No any SLR. Digital stuff has that crop factor, you need a very expensive or very new digital body to not be affected by this.
Butler	posted on 7th Dec 05 at 01:35
	do you have to have a special camera for it to fit
Ian	posted on 7th Dec 05 at 01:31
	Very wide angle. Not sure of the figures but that is around 16mm I think? I'm sure its a 10mm lens with a 1.6 crop factor on that body. Ross will confirm.
Butler	posted on 6th Dec 05 at 23:35
	Is this a new lense or something, I want pics like this.