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[quote][i]Originally posted by Andrew[/i]
[quote][i]Originally posted by Balling[/i]
[quote][i]Originally posted by Andrew[/i]
I'm working for a 150 user company at the moment and they only use Dell. Rare if anything hardware wise goes wrong. [/quote]Dell are good, but that argument is a pet hate of mine.

Dell PC's don't have better hardware than other manufacturers. RAM, drives, processors, everything is well known brands, just as if you bought an HP desktop. I can't see any logic in Dell's being less faulty.

The argument to be made for Dell is the one John has put forward. Their service is top notch. I've had both personal and business desktops and laptops through Dell and when something goes wrong, which it does, of course, they get it handled. [/quote]

Valid argument that it is the same or similar branded hardware. Just from my experience over the past 6/7 years of working in IT. You buy decent, you are unlucky to have problems. You buy cheap and you will be replacing sooner due to spec or build quality.

It's also down to personal preference and experience. For example, a guy called me up a few weeks back and had bought a Dell PowerEdge 2950 off eBay. Because i've put a few of these in and knows parts are available i'm happy to install. If this was a hp or Fujisu i wouldn't touch it because i'd spend days fucking around with old kit with no support and it's likely to fail before something new. It wouldn't be worth my time as i'd lose money away from other jobs.

I personally am not a fan of hp but a few lads i work with will use nothing else.

Dell's support is awesome! Even available through live chat. [/quote]

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Andrew	posted on 8th Jan 13 at 14:54
	quote: Originally posted by Balling quote: Originally posted by Andrew I'm working for a 150 user company at the moment and they only use Dell. Rare if anything hardware wise goes wrong. Dell are good, but that argument is a pet hate of mine. Dell PC's don't have better hardware than other manufacturers. RAM, drives, processors, everything is well known brands, just as if you bought an HP desktop. I can't see any logic in Dell's being less faulty. The argument to be made for Dell is the one John has put forward. Their service is top notch. I've had both personal and business desktops and laptops through Dell and when something goes wrong, which it does, of course, they get it handled. Valid argument that it is the same or similar branded hardware. Just from my experience over the past 6/7 years of working in IT. You buy decent, you are unlucky to have problems. You buy cheap and you will be replacing sooner due to spec or build quality. It's also down to personal preference and experience. For example, a guy called me up a few weeks back and had bought a Dell PowerEdge 2950 off eBay. Because i've put a few of these in and knows parts are available i'm happy to install. If this was a hp or Fujisu i wouldn't touch it because i'd spend days fucking around with old kit with no support and it's likely to fail before something new. It wouldn't be worth my time as i'd lose money away from other jobs. I personally am not a fan of hp but a few lads i work with will use nothing else. Dell's support is awesome! Even available through live chat.
LeeM	posted on 8th Jan 13 at 14:50
	oh i know yeah, but i specced up a desktop on pcspecialist and for a similar price (£430) youd only have an i3, a massive case and no resale. my 21.5 acer screen was only £80 and it looks ace
DaveyLC	posted on 8th Jan 13 at 14:19
	True BUT Then if the pc is that old you'd want a new screen etc.
LeeM	posted on 8th Jan 13 at 12:32
	quote: Originally posted by DaveyLC quote: Originally posted by Andrew Dell or Apple if your budget stretches. I'm working for a 150 user company at the moment and they only use Dell. Rare if anything hardware wise goes wrong. Before that, working with smaller companies and just opening a box you would find failed hard disks, RAM & motherboards. Mostly budget hp kit. Google Dell refurbs, you can find 3 years next day warranty on this stuff. Even second hand macs will be shit for that budget :( mini is reasonably well specced at £450 tbh
Balling	posted on 8th Jan 13 at 12:04
	quote: Originally posted by Andrew I'm working for a 150 user company at the moment and they only use Dell. Rare if anything hardware wise goes wrong. Dell are good, but that argument is a pet hate of mine. Dell PC's don't have better hardware than other manufacturers. RAM, drives, processors, everything is well known brands, just as if you bought an HP desktop. I can't see any logic in Dell's being less faulty. The argument to be made for Dell is the one John has put forward. Their service is top notch. I've had both personal and business desktops and laptops through Dell and when something goes wrong, which it does, of course, they get it handled.
DaveyLC	posted on 8th Jan 13 at 11:54
	quote: Originally posted by Andrew Dell or Apple if your budget stretches. I'm working for a 150 user company at the moment and they only use Dell. Rare if anything hardware wise goes wrong. Before that, working with smaller companies and just opening a box you would find failed hard disks, RAM & motherboards. Mostly budget hp kit. Google Dell refurbs, you can find 3 years next day warranty on this stuff. Even second hand macs will be shit for that budget :(
LeeM	posted on 8th Jan 13 at 10:06
	Have a look on that pcspecialist.co.uk seem to be popular at the minute
Archie	posted on 8th Jan 13 at 09:48
	Thought about building as i done a Higher level computing course at college after leaving school but to be honest i've forgotten 95% of what i learnt and would probably end up buyin a load of shite or making a cock of putting it together.
deano87	posted on 8th Jan 13 at 06:50
	www.BigPockets.co.uk is half decent for refurb stuff. I bought an IBM laptop from them for uni. Just word processing stuff. Still going strong.
Andrew	posted on 7th Jan 13 at 23:55
	Dell or Apple if your budget stretches. I'm working for a 150 user company at the moment and they only use Dell. Rare if anything hardware wise goes wrong. Before that, working with smaller companies and just opening a box you would find failed hard disks, RAM & motherboards. Mostly budget hp kit. Google Dell refurbs, you can find 3 years next day warranty on this stuff.
deano87	posted on 7th Jan 13 at 22:31
	My Dads PC pre-dates mine which is 2004. It's a Pentium 4 3.00GHz with 120gb HDD, 1gb Ram. Upgraded a few parts and replaced HDD once but only because I was paranoid. The fact it takes about 2 minutes to open Word means he is looking at replacing it. Pretty good going I'd say.
John	posted on 7th Jan 13 at 20:03
	Dell are hard to beat and not many other manufacturers will send somebody out with the part next day, without too much arguing.
Sam	posted on 7th Jan 13 at 20:02
	:lol: all you lot bumming Dell, they aren't the only desktop manufacturer in the world you know! Archie check the eBuyer website, even on the same systems in PCW they usually do them much cheaper.
deano87	posted on 7th Jan 13 at 19:46
	Dell. [/Thread Closed]
fiestakidda	posted on 7th Jan 13 at 19:19
	If you are happy at building a machine you could use the following set up and add the extras which you want: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh455l3348s
Simon_16v	posted on 7th Jan 13 at 18:07
	Better off building one yourself, can have a nice system for £500
Dom	posted on 7th Jan 13 at 17:33
	Dell or build your own (not exactly difficult).
andy_mk3	posted on 7th Jan 13 at 17:20
	quote: Originally posted by DaveyLC DELL website and buy the best spec for your budget :) This. Avoid the shit from PC World/Currys like the plague.
DaveyLC	posted on 7th Jan 13 at 16:59
	DELL website and buy the best spec for your budget :)
WATSON	posted on 7th Jan 13 at 12:22
	Was looking at buying a pc for the home myself for pretty much the same what you'r after. Come across this over on curry's, http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/hp-pavilion-p6-2302eam-desktop-pc-with-2211x-22-full-hd-led-monitor-black-17392850-pdt.html plenty storage space, quick and running windows 8 aswell. :thumbs:
Archie	posted on 7th Jan 13 at 09:24
	Seriously?
Archie	posted on 3rd Jan 13 at 08:23
	After my desktop packed up a couple of years back my Mum gave me her old laptop as it needed the power supply input repaired. Paid £80 to get it repaired about 18 months ago, and has done the job until it started playing up again, have to lie on the floor with something wedged under the power input :lol: Never been a fan of using laptops would rather just sit at a desktop, i only use the laptop if i desperatly need to. Going to be looking to spend up to £500 come the end of the month. Main uses will be - Internet Music playing & downloading (Have around 200GB on my portable HD) so would like 1TB hard drive. Decent ram spec, current laptop shits its pants a lot. CD burning capability also. Been a while since i looked at anything PC and have forgotten most things i learned about them. Cheers