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AlunJ	posted on 15th Nov 10 at 00:19
	quote: Originally posted by adiohead buy a mac and never look back best thing I ever did, I love mine, hate using windows now! Never had any problems with virus/spyware/malware, I imagine it's not impossible to get it but it's certainly never affected me. With windows, I was doing a reinstall at least every 6months just because I find windows slows down. I've never had to reinstall, except for when the new version of osx came out. Don't even have to defrag a mac. I'm sure they're not perfect, but they've given me no problems, and customer service is second to none. [Edited on 15-11-2010 by AlunJ]
Ian	posted on 14th Nov 10 at 23:09
	Its probably fixable, even the biggest of software jobs can be sorted if you have the time / inclination. I certainly wouldn't be spending a grand because of a software prob. But yeah, you may find one easier to live with.
noshua	posted on 14th Nov 10 at 23:03
	You said it wouldn't restore, not format. You could download XP/7 onto a CD or USB stick do a fresh install. As Cavey and SSJ said though
Matt H	posted on 14th Nov 10 at 22:55
	quote: Originally posted by ssj_kakarot get another laptop, save a shit load of money and er look after your new one? OR if you want to waste a grand because you cant be bothered to spend 30 mins formating your old one then fair enough, apple products seem right up your street [Edited on 14-11-2010 by ssj_kakarot] GOOD ONE Already said it won't format..
Russ	posted on 14th Nov 10 at 20:38
	Don't hate the player hate the game
ssj_kakarot	posted on 14th Nov 10 at 14:55
	get another laptop, save a shit load of money and er look after your new one? OR if you want to waste a grand because you cant be bothered to spend 30 mins formating your old one then fair enough, apple products seem right up your street [Edited on 14-11-2010 by ssj_kakarot]
Dom	posted on 14th Nov 10 at 02:11
	quote: Originally posted by Matt H I'm having dirty Mac thoughts because I'm told that they tend not to do this... but that could just be the usual Apple fanboy bollocks :lol: Not quite true. Every file system fragments, even HFS (a bit out dated in terms of what file systems are now available) which is used by OSX. Difference with OSX is that it automatically optimises (read defrag) the drive(s) during every system update (was the case with Tiger, might have changed with since), so basically OSX looked/looks after itself. Without this optimisation (quite common in production environments where updates are rarely done due to stability - ie: better to run a solid system than update and find it fucks up tens of thousand pounds worth of software and gear), the systems can end up crawling. I've seen it a handful of times where opening applications like Protools or even Firefox literally take 10-20 minutes ie: you've got enough time to put the kettle on, make a cuppa and rummage through the biscuit tin. OSX is properly ok so long you keep it updated and it optimises the drives. But I’ve found iDefrag to be a bit of a life saver in some situations in restoring drive performance. And since Vista, Windows will automatically defrag drives when they're idle. I've got a 4 year old dell on Vista and it's just as quick as the day I got it. As for your laptop, it sounds like it got abused and wasn't really maintained (how you got a virus is beyond me). And to be honest, as Cavey has pointed out, it could easily be fixed. Either way, if you want to buy a Mac then get one. OSX is a decent OS and Macs are fairly well built (I’ve had a few plastic Mac book splinter around the mouse area). But don't get dragged in to the whole, they are rock solid, never have problems bollocks as this simple isn't the case. Macs/OSX do have niggles and issues just like any other computer/os.
Andrew	posted on 13th Nov 10 at 22:24
	Send that accross to me as well Ross :) Another option Matt is to get the likes of a Dell with 3 years warranty. Becasue my stuff tends to get hammered this is what i get now. I do like the mac though, currently looking for a Mac Mini. Funds don't allow at the moment though :(
Matt H	posted on 13th Nov 10 at 21:31
	Aye send it over I'll have a look :)
adiohead	posted on 13th Nov 10 at 21:30
	yeah, they don't check. ;) ;) I went to uni for a macbook pro
Russ	posted on 13th Nov 10 at 21:29
	nope, they will not check. :)
Matt H	posted on 13th Nov 10 at 21:27
	Don't you have to be a student though?
Russ	posted on 13th Nov 10 at 21:21
	quote: Originally posted by adiohead buy a mac and never look back this i have a link for higher education site, knocks hundreds off :) u2u if interested
adiohead	posted on 13th Nov 10 at 21:12
	buy a mac and never look back
Matt H	posted on 13th Nov 10 at 21:06
	Sorry :lol: If the restore won't work I'd sooner buy something new & try & save all my stuff. It was pretty fecked anyway, broken fan, only works when on charge, slow as Hell. Then the virus stuck a big Fuck you on top & mercy killed it
Cavey	posted on 13th Nov 10 at 20:51
	Ok, well my advice would be to do what I said in the first bit :p If it's got a CD drive then go into the BIOS choose boot from CD, boot it with a copy of Vista/7/XP in the drive, and re-install it completely fresh, will lose all your data, but you will if you get a new one anyway. If no CD drive, then get someone to do a bootable USB drive, and do the same thing. And then don't go on dodgy sites :o Just trying to save you money on a new laptop :\| If neither of them work, then new laptop/mac There are a few mac users on here, so you'll get advice from them soon enough. [Edited on 13-11-2010 by Cavey]
AndyKent	posted on 13th Nov 10 at 20:50
	^^ :lol::lol: Can't say I've ever had a problem with Windows slowing down, even my 4 year old Vista laptop :!
Matt H	posted on 13th Nov 10 at 20:46
	I was asking for advice, not offering out shit for free :o
Cavey	posted on 13th Nov 10 at 20:42
	No cd drive? Boot from CD with a copy of XP, re-install, working? Or if you think it's fucked, i'll take it for free and give it a go :\|
Matt H	posted on 13th Nov 10 at 20:41
	It won't even restore. Megafucked
Cavey	posted on 13th Nov 10 at 20:36
	>£1k.... As for the question, I can not help :\| Surely you can just format it and start again if it's just a virus?
Matt H	posted on 13th Nov 10 at 20:34
	Another laptop has died on me after about 2 years, done the usual trick of slowing down, getting a virus then dying on its arse. Am I having bad luck or is this the norm? I'm having dirty Mac thoughts because I'm told that they tend not to do this... but that could just be the usual Apple fanboy bollocks :lol: Don't really want to blow <£1k on a laptop but if its going to last me longer & perform better then the price isn't far off the alternative options If anyone wants to post some suggestions please do. Having to do this on my phone right now so I can't really search very easily :facepalm: