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cunningham	posted on 3rd Feb 09 at 22:57
	mate has a 50 inch LG plasma it is pish played ps3 was on a laoding screen went black and you could still see the image in the background im guessing this is screen burn not sure though it changed to another image when it was on the tv still for longer than 40 seconds
mwg	posted on 3rd Feb 09 at 18:34
	its not working again :lol: LG's rock :lol:
JM Curdy	posted on 3rd Feb 09 at 15:07
	quote: Do you find it retains mostly when playing games with static info on the screen or just watching TV? everything, games, films, tv. have to run the screen burn protection thing every nite, the signal pattern thingy. dunno if its grounds to complain to them, bit late now maybe
ash_corsa	posted on 3rd Feb 09 at 14:36
	quote: Originally posted by Daveskater quote: Originally posted by ash_corsa quote: Originally posted by Daveskater Apparently Plasmas are only worth it over about 50". Plasma screens don't last as long as an LCD, only a couple of years I think. They're not repairable either iirc, you have to replace the whole thing. Why offer advice when you clearly know fuck-all about the subject. What you have said is total bullshit! :lol: Well then correct me as I thought this was the case. If you're just going to say that I'm wrong then I really don't care. Btw, by not repairable I meant you can't repair the screen. If I'm wrong then fine, I've got the stones to admit that, but your comment was not helpful at all. [Edited on 02-02-2009 by Daveskater] How is an LCD panel repairable? Whereas a plasma panel not? You cant repair either, you can replace either but not repair them. All three of your 'comments' ended with 'I think' 'IIRC' and 'apparently', how is this supposed to help someone with a problem? I helped Matt out by telling him to ignore your comments! :lol:
ash_corsa	posted on 3rd Feb 09 at 14:32
	quote: Originally posted by JM Curdy its about 9-10months mate, it was run in on low settings but even on low settings i still get a shit load amount of retention its awful Odd one that, ususally if it run-in properly for the 200 hours, image retention should be almost non existant unless you leave it on a static image for ages. I know my Pana plasma gave a bit of retention at first on my PS3 but did the run in and now its fine. Do you find it retains mostly when playing games with static info on the screen or just watching TV?
JM Curdy	posted on 3rd Feb 09 at 02:27
	quote: Originally posted by ash_corsa quote: Originally posted by JM Curdy ive got a 50"samsung plasma and its horrible, screen burn after 20-30 seconds of something being on the screen, got a 42" panasonic plasma down stairs and its far far superior How old is the Samsung mate? Sounds like static image retention, not screen burn. In the first 200 hours, plasmas should be 'run in', using low contrast and brightness. This helps prevent image retention in the future. Panasonic plasmas are much better than Samsung all day long. its about 9-10months mate, it was run in on low settings but even on low settings i still get a shit load amount of retention its awful
Daveskater	posted on 2nd Feb 09 at 20:23
	quote: Originally posted by ash_corsa quote: Originally posted by Daveskater Apparently Plasmas are only worth it over about 50". Plasma screens don't last as long as an LCD, only a couple of years I think. They're not repairable either iirc, you have to replace the whole thing. Why offer advice when you clearly know fuck-all about the subject. What you have said is total bullshit! :lol: Well then correct me as I thought this was the case. If you're just going to say that I'm wrong then I really don't care. Btw, by not repairable I meant you can't repair the screen. If I'm wrong then fine, I've got the stones to admit that, but your comment was not helpful at all. [Edited on 02-02-2009 by Daveskater]
mwg	posted on 2nd Feb 09 at 19:50
	sorted. it doesn't say anything in the trouble shooting bit in the manual but we rang the helpline and they talked us through how to sort it. was in some sort of safe mode! bit strange it doesnt tell you how to sort it in the manual. The picture is brilliant. I can tell the difference in quality between it and my R74 Samsung. The plasma iss quite a bit better and the blacks are much deeper. I need a new tv :( :lol:
mwg	posted on 2nd Feb 09 at 18:11
	dont suppose you know much about LGs do you? just plugged it all in and it wont turn on. the standy button flashes amber and green. guess that means its a dodgy one?
ash_corsa	posted on 2nd Feb 09 at 18:04
	quote: Originally posted by JM Curdy ive got a 50"samsung plasma and its horrible, screen burn after 20-30 seconds of something being on the screen, got a 42" panasonic plasma down stairs and its far far superior How old is the Samsung mate? Sounds like static image retention, not screen burn. In the first 200 hours, plasmas should be 'run in', using low contrast and brightness. This helps prevent image retention in the future. Panasonic plasmas are much better than Samsung all day long.
ash_corsa	posted on 2nd Feb 09 at 18:01
	quote: Originally posted by Daveskater Apparently Plasmas are only worth it over about 50". Plasma screens don't last as long as an LCD, only a couple of years I think. They're not repairable either iirc, you have to replace the whole thing. Why offer advice when you clearly know fuck-all about the subject. What you have said is total bullshit! :lol:
Scotty_B	posted on 2nd Feb 09 at 14:00
	You'll be hard pushed to even breathe on the New Pioneer range with any LCD.
mwg	posted on 2nd Feb 09 at 13:47
	Thats reassuring. Although this LG is cheap for a Plasma. £380
Ian W	posted on 2nd Feb 09 at 13:39
	We have had our Sony 42" Plasma for about 6 years. No problem with it at all and it been used everyday for TV / XBox etc. I'd say the amount of work my dad does (TV Engineer) is about 1 plasma repair to every 5 LCD's. This may come down to the amount of cheapo LCD's available now though :boggle:
Jez_B	posted on 2nd Feb 09 at 12:38
	My dad has an 50" panasonic plasma, absolutely brilliant picture, he done loads of research before buying one, best brand are pioneer followed by the panasonic which use pioneer components, as for screen burn thats a load of tosh on these brands anyway. Plasma's are well worth the money imo.
mwg	posted on 2nd Feb 09 at 12:28
	so whats screen burn exactly? they wont be playing games on it! All I know is I told them to get a 32" Sony Bravia as everyone I know that has them rates them and they got persuaded by the salesman to go for the Plasma :o I didn't realise you could get plasmas as small as 32"
JM Curdy	posted on 2nd Feb 09 at 12:01
	ive got a 50"samsung plasma and its horrible, screen burn after 20-30 seconds of something being on the screen, got a 42" panasonic plasma down stairs and its far far superior
Paul_J	posted on 2nd Feb 09 at 11:56
	quote: Originally posted by Daveskater Apparently Plasmas are only worth it over about 50". Plasma screens don't last as long as an LCD, only a couple of years I think. They're not repairable either iirc, you have to replace the whole thing. Think it's about 6 years till it reaches it's half life... So becomes 'half dim' ... Basically it's brightness reduces over it's years of use. Personally when we got ours to have it at max setting would be stupidly bright, so put it on half brightness... looks spot on and hasn't dimmed at all yet. In 6 years the dimming probably won't be that noticable, plus by then I'd be ready to get a new tv I think.
Paul_J	posted on 2nd Feb 09 at 11:54
	modern plasma's aren't bad. People used to say about screen burn etc. But my parents have a modern Panasonic Viera 37 inch and it's fine, I can play games on it and don't get any burn. Also plasma generally has better colour contrast and imo sometimes a sharper picture.
Daveskater	posted on 2nd Feb 09 at 11:53
	Apparently Plasmas are only worth it over about 50". Plasma screens don't last as long as an LCD, only a couple of years I think. They're not repairable either iirc, you have to replace the whole thing.
mwg	posted on 2nd Feb 09 at 11:49
	Whats the main advantages and disadvantages between them? Are plasma's more or less reliable than LCDs? Parents are meant to have an LG 32" Plasma turn up today and I dont really know much about them. Got a 26" LCD myself [Edited on 02-02-2009 by Matty G]