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MikeLamb	posted on 16th Dec 06 at 16:13
	quote: Originally posted by Dom so the main site runs on html pages and you edit those? whats db for? yea, i can see it being fairly easy to do, personally a lot more so if the whole site was db driven. Though i suppose there are a few sites where automation of updating by the client wouldn't be suitable, but certainly an option that should be given with all sites if i was a website developer :thumbs: Mine has one index.php and used mod_rewrite, so you have pages like http://site.com/blah/, pulling the content for page blah from the database, adding pages is as simple as adding another record to the db, each page also has a common header/footer (also stored in the db)
Jamie Walby	posted on 16th Dec 06 at 08:47
	quote: Originally posted by NeilM quote: Originally posted by dave17 I have also used 1&1 before. The second client wants to be able to update the site himself, but doesnt have any knowledge of web design. Dont see how that will work :boggle: Software like that is £££ Not really.. can write a simple php / mysql script that will allow them to alter text on pages and also add / remove pages, just by typing in boxes and clicking buttons. Shouldn't take too long. Could even do a little image upload bit if they want a portfolio style page. [Edited on 14-12-2006 by NeilM] [Edited on 14-12-2006 by NeilM] Thats exactly what my site is like. I dont know HTML and all that, so I paid for the software and now update the site myself :)
Dom	posted on 15th Dec 06 at 23:34
	quote: Originally posted by Jodi_the_g datebase puts the html in the box on the template if you get me it looks for the link to the page then puts the correct information on the correct page. ahhh fair enough, personally i would have a single php index file, use a switch/case that loads up certain includes for the different pages. The include files are the ones you edit using your wysiwyg type backend...like they say though, more than one way to skin a cat :thumbs: [Edited on 15-12-2006 by Dom]
Jodi_the_g	posted on 15th Dec 06 at 23:19
	datebase puts the html in the box on the template if you get me it looks for the link to the page then puts the correct information on the correct page.
Dom	posted on 15th Dec 06 at 22:24
	so the main site runs on html pages and you edit those? whats db for? yea, i can see it being fairly easy to do, personally a lot more so if the whole site was db driven. Though i suppose there are a few sites where automation of updating by the client wouldn't be suitable, but certainly an option that should be given with all sites if i was a website developer :thumbs:
Jodi_the_g	posted on 15th Dec 06 at 21:39
	I do it so it has a wysiwyg editor back end which converts it to html and saves to a mysql db, it is then linked into the page. Very simple and all you have to do is past a few links of php code into the template to get it to work.
Dom	posted on 15th Dec 06 at 21:33
	you guys make is so it reads data out of the database or it edits the actual html file? but yea, its pretty easy to do eitherway....would save loads of hassle for yourself as well and the client and will get you a bit more work as not many people want to pay something to keep updating the thing.
Jodi_the_g	posted on 15th Dec 06 at 21:23
	A basic CMS is faily easy to do, as Dom said it would be worth while learning. I built one that I added features to that I now just build a template on for clients that want it.
MikeLamb	posted on 15th Dec 06 at 20:07
	I'm making a simple CMS now in PHP, pretty simple to do..
Dom	posted on 15th Dec 06 at 19:49
	i would learn php or some sort of server side script, could charge more and you could offer clients a lot lot more like neil m said - because the chance is he wont take up the offer of having to pay you to update it and/or he'll find someone else to do it :thumbs:
--Dave--	posted on 15th Dec 06 at 12:47
	you could do x amount of changes for them for nothing as part of the package and then charge after that.
AdZ9	posted on 15th Dec 06 at 09:02
	i never have a rough price as it differs from each client usually. I mean i have a rough price guide that i follow but they are rarely the same. If you get any spare work chuck some my way :P
Neil	posted on 14th Dec 06 at 23:18
	Ah, fair enough.
dave17	posted on 14th Dec 06 at 23:14
	I have no clue about ANY of that, my HTML is basic is it is! Id just have to charge everytime they wanted to update it :)
Neil	posted on 14th Dec 06 at 23:06
	quote: Originally posted by dave17 I have also used 1&1 before. The second client wants to be able to update the site himself, but doesnt have any knowledge of web design. Dont see how that will work :boggle: Software like that is £££ Not really.. can write a simple php / mysql script that will allow them to alter text on pages and also add / remove pages, just by typing in boxes and clicking buttons. Shouldn't take too long. Could even do a little image upload bit if they want a portfolio style page. [Edited on 14-12-2006 by NeilM] [Edited on 14-12-2006 by NeilM]
John_C	posted on 14th Dec 06 at 22:48
	point that out to them. charge monthly/yearly fee for updating.
dave17	posted on 14th Dec 06 at 22:45
	I have also used 1&1 before. The second client wants to be able to update the site himself, but doesnt have any knowledge of web design. Dont see how that will work :boggle: Software like that is £££
John_C	posted on 14th Dec 06 at 22:41
	£250 for the website - guestimate hosting be cheap as; have used oneandone.co.uk before
dave17	posted on 14th Dec 06 at 22:36
	Oh and for the second client, i think i will have to sort out hosting etc
dave17	posted on 14th Dec 06 at 22:30
	I am doing a few websites for some clients and wondering on how much i should be charging? On the first one, i am just designing it, supplying all the artwork cut up ready to be put into HTML. I have charged this client £15 an hr before. 2nd site - I think this one should be a pretty simple site for a small building company, and i should be able to do the HTML on this one aswel. Think it will be around 6 pages. What is the rough going price?