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Mark_Robson	posted on 21st Apr 03 at 17:17
	I disagree... Especially about the driving position, the Golf's driving position gave me a bad back if I drove it for any period of time! As for the Astra, it has nice lumber supports and is a joy to drive! I admit the Golf is more refined but I would choose the Astra any day! Mark
MatG	posted on 21st Apr 03 at 16:51
	but i could be tempted by a VX220 turbo, once they come down in price a little as well.......i will always have a soft spot for some vauxhalls.
MatG	posted on 21st Apr 03 at 16:49
	I have got a Mk4 1.4 golf and a mk4 astra 1.8, as a standard car the golf shits all over the astra in every department. Yes the astra is faster of coruse it is but in terms of build, drive, standard kit, driving postion its a lot better. I still love my astra and i will never sell it, BUT i will be buying VW/AUDI from now on. I want an Audi S3 next year.
Mark_Robson	posted on 21st Apr 03 at 15:25
	quote: Originally posted by Kayleigh Well what can I say? :P Where did u get the astra?? I got the Astra from Bristol Street in town and so far they have been excellent and gave me a really good deal!! Mark.
Mark_Robson	posted on 21st Apr 03 at 15:23
	quote: Originally posted by SXi_Tim is that vw's fault about the V5? isnt that the dvla? Not too sure... VW blamed the DVLA for that and the Tax, but when I went to the DVLA and requested the microfiche from them it said VW had entered the wrong details on the forms for the Tax etc... Add to this the face that not a single person from VW said sorry for anything! It made me a little angry to say the least! Mark.
Kayleigh	posted on 21st Apr 03 at 15:21
	quote: Originally posted by Mark_Robson The dealer was a big one on Scotswood road in Newcastle... Mark. Well what can I say? :P Where did u get the astra??
SXi_Tim	posted on 21st Apr 03 at 15:21
	is that vw's fault about the V5? isnt that the dvla?
Dave Hay	posted on 21st Apr 03 at 15:21
	but to be fair if i was buying a car and the v5 said it was a jeep and have asked for another golf...
carl moffatt	posted on 21st Apr 03 at 15:20
	strange:boggle:
Mark_Robson	posted on 21st Apr 03 at 15:20
	quote: Originally posted by Kayleigh :lol: You should have taken the car back and asked for your Jeep! Not a bad idea that! ;) The dealer was a big one on Scotswood road in Newcastle... Mark.
SXi_Tim	posted on 21st Apr 03 at 15:18
	what vw dealer was it?
Kayleigh	posted on 21st Apr 03 at 15:18
	:lol: You should have taken the car back and asked for your Jeep!
Dave Hay	posted on 21st Apr 03 at 15:16
	my dads just bought a brand new golf too lol really is rare to read about this! my vauxs have broke loads lol but its all fun!
Mark_Robson	posted on 21st Apr 03 at 15:16
	The car was the new 1.6 Match... The problems with the car were:- 1. Car kept stalling and "Alternator Workshop" appeared on the dash - VW Said the diagnostic machine reported no issues so they would not do anything. 2. Rattle from the rear of the car 3. Rattle from the front of the car 4. Excessive wind noise from the driver’s door 5. Brakes squealed 6. Dash lights kept going out 7. gearbox was poor, seems to have notches in Problems with the dealer: 1. When the V5 came the car was a Jeep Wrangler :boggle: 2. Although the car was brand new they registered it in the month before for their sales figures meaning I lost a month of tax 3. VW Roadside assistance only ran for 10 months rather than 12 as it should have done 4. The car was taken in 5 times to resolve the above issues, not only did they not solve them they managed to put the BIGGEST scratch in the dash ever which meant they had to replace a section of it and the car was filthy with nasty smudges and fingerprints all over it! There are other issues but that’s all I can remember at the moment! Mark.
SXi_Tim	posted on 21st Apr 03 at 15:15
	what golf was it u bought?
willay	posted on 21st Apr 03 at 15:09
	must be a one in 100 chance, my mum has had 4 VW's, a old golf, new golf turbo, and two turbo passats and has no problems at all. [Edited on 21-04-2003 by willay]
Kayleigh	posted on 21st Apr 03 at 15:08
	What were the problems with it?
Mark_Robson	posted on 21st Apr 03 at 15:07
	Brave? I would say sensible! The only thing I can go from is my own personal experience and I had a Vauxhall for almost 4 years without problems! My Golf only lasted 2 Months without falling to bits! Vauxhall all the way for me!! Mark. [Edited on 21-04-2003 by Mark_Robson]
Dave Hay	posted on 21st Apr 03 at 15:04
	everyone ive knows has had no probs withere there vws lol brave man going from vw to vaux :look:
Mark_Robson	posted on 21st Apr 03 at 15:03
	There have been a few post on here of late where ppl have contemplated buying a VW Golf or spoken of the pros and cons of the same car... Well, I myself bought a brand new Golf 2 months ago after trading in my Corsa B, the Golf was without doubt the WORST car I have ever owned! I had so many problems with the car and the dealer that VW agreed to pay the settlement figure and take the car back! I have now bought myself an 02 Reg Astra SXI and I feel much more confident being back with Vauxhall!! Just thought you guys may be interested in my experience with these 'reliable' German manufacturers! Mark.