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Steve X16XE

posted on 20th Nov 07 at 13:56

Mk4 Astra also have them. It's fun when you have to slam the ancors on on the motorway and there's a trailer behind you.


Superlite Ltd.

posted on 20th Nov 07 at 13:51

Load compensators are not just spring loaded ones.

Older astras have in-line ones, that need to be changed to a different compenation value when lowered.


Steve

posted on 20th Nov 07 at 13:29

me


Daimo B

posted on 20th Nov 07 at 13:27

Its because the car acts as though its got a lot of weight as the suspension is lower. Its not weighty, its just that the car has been lowered. So the sping needs to be adjusted, or removed. Tracking needs to be redone.

How many people these days just bung on some springs and reckon thats it, the cars lowered :lol:


22B

posted on 20th Nov 07 at 12:23

definately the spring compensator on the rear of the car. After I lowered my old corsa sport(no abs), the car would always want to overtake the front end not great when you need to stop in a hurry. Always remember coming over the brow of a hill and seeing a tractor trailer combo doing a hairpin right into a junction completely blocking the road and queue of cars behind on my side, slammed the brakes on and sideways was not the word, somehow managed to get it straight and just stopped in time, people behind must have been sweating seeing me in that kind of shape coming towards them


Superlite Ltd.

posted on 20th Nov 07 at 12:13

tbh if you lower your car without checking/adjusting you load compensator valve your a moron and deserve to have a crash :lol:


Edd

posted on 20th Nov 07 at 12:05

quote:
Originally posted by Ricky352
quote:
Originally posted by Edd
brake bias


should always be adjusted same as you should always get you tracking done after lowering far too often people dont bother


Is it a big/expensive job getting it adjusted?



no not at all


Daimo B

posted on 20th Nov 07 at 11:58

quote:
Originally posted by Ricky352

So without the spring im guessing theres no braking balance at all?


Well before, when the car was standard, it was fine.
When I lowered it, the back end fealt like it always wanted to overtake you under ahrd braking. Many of us suffered the same problem.

Mine came off by mistake after a bodyshop didn't re-make me a bracket. But the back end fealt more planted.

Failed an MOT, had to get a braket made up to hold the mechanism, but I never re-fitted the spring, and never had any problems since. Even with the rear disks.

Not going to say to do it or not as it was a long time ago.


Ricky352

posted on 20th Nov 07 at 11:53

quote:
Originally posted by Edd
brake bias


should always be adjusted same as you should always get you tracking done after lowering far too often people dont bother


Is it a big/expensive job getting it adjusted?


andyc1234

posted on 20th Nov 07 at 11:40

had some trouble a while back where the car was skidding all over the place with the fronts locking up and it turns out the compensator spring had snapped so the rear where not getting anything to them


Edd

posted on 20th Nov 07 at 11:31

i really wouldnt remove the spring if you are involved in an accident they will use this against you imo


andyc1234

posted on 20th Nov 07 at 11:26

both my corsas have had the compensator and been lowered a lot at the back. even with discs on the rear now i dont really think its a problem


Ricky352

posted on 20th Nov 07 at 11:23

quote:
Originally posted by VXR
Rear brake compensator.

Bascially a spring which expands when theres more weight in the back of the car. It adjusts the braking balance to the back.

Took mine off years ago as I found it actually made the rear end more skittish with it on. MOT questioned it every year :lol: but the back feels more planted without it.


So without the spring im guessing theres no braking balance at all?


FruitBooTeR

posted on 20th Nov 07 at 11:22

Yeh id like to know how to take this spring off :)


deex

posted on 20th Nov 07 at 11:20

where abouts is this spring?


andyc1234

posted on 20th Nov 07 at 10:57

something about stiffer suspension and wet weather as well


Dean_W

posted on 20th Nov 07 at 10:56

quote:
Originally posted by VXR
Rear brake compensator.



I slammed my brakes on one day when somone pulled out on me. Doing abotu 50 at the time. Back end went light, locked up and the car spun.

Took the spring off the day after. Never had a problem again.


Edd

posted on 20th Nov 07 at 10:55

brake bias


should always be adjusted same as you should always get you tracking done after lowering far too often people dont bother


Daimo B

posted on 20th Nov 07 at 10:54

Rear brake compensator.

Bascially a spring which expands when theres more weight in the back of the car. It adjusts the braking balance to the back.

Took mine off years ago as I found it actually made the rear end more skittish with it on. MOT questioned it every year :lol: but the back feels more planted without it.


johnhara1

posted on 20th Nov 07 at 10:44

Yeah, on a corsa b there is a rear brake sensor that assumes theres more weight in the back when its lowered.

Because it thinks theres more weight, it applies more breaking force to the rear locking the back wheels up.


Steve

posted on 20th Nov 07 at 10:42

yes its possible


Ricky352

posted on 20th Nov 07 at 10:40

My Dad works for the DRD and gets accident reports etc. In one of them an accident was said to be caused because the car was lowered.

This doesnt happen in abs cars apperently.

What had happened was all 4 wheels locked because of the sensor which determines how much force should be on the brakes. Apparently this sensor works by measuring how low the front/back of the car are, so it can regulate the braking. Becasue the car was lowered this messed the sensor up.

Just wondering if anyone knew if this is possible, as its quite worrying!