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Paul_J

posted on 28th Mar 07 at 21:02

quote:
Originally posted by warren.g
so more toe in, better handleing ie less understeer :)

when cars on the four wheel aligner will adjust camber to -1 degree and tracking to 1 degree then


and on the tyres side, just swap tyres left to right! :lol:


what the fuck...? no.

More toe in on fronts = Understeer.

Infact more toe in on rears = understeer lol.


davey_jack

posted on 28th Mar 07 at 20:29

this would be good in the tutorials section!


Jake

posted on 28th Mar 07 at 20:12

i thought corsa's were around -1.5degree negative camber from the factory. I have always thought it was too much and had thought about taking the rears down to 1.25 but werent sure about toe settings.


Warren G

posted on 28th Mar 07 at 19:44

so more toe in, better handleing ie less understeer :)

when cars on the four wheel aligner will adjust camber to -1 degree and tracking to 1 degree then


and on the tyres side, just swap tyres left to right! :lol:


Paul_J

posted on 28th Mar 07 at 19:35

quote:
Originally posted by warren.g
was going to set mine up as 1.5 degree camber, but will do one degree now :)

and the tracking 1 degree toe - what will that help (over 0 degree standard?)


Front wheels toed out = More turn in / over steer

Rear wheels toed in = stability / (possible understeer)

Rear wheels toed out = Over steer lol.

More negative camber = In theory better sideways grip

Though caster affects the camber as wheels are turned - so bare that in mind.

As robin says 'setting up the wheels for best handling' - could mean fucked tyres quickly as it'll be wearing mostly probably on the insides of the tyres.


Robin

posted on 28th Mar 07 at 19:20

Remember that setting it up for handling will mean it's not going to be particularly good on tyres (if anyone cares about tyres :lol: )

I need a car worth setting up :(


Warren G

posted on 28th Mar 07 at 19:16

was going to set mine up as 1.5 degree camber, but will do one degree now :)

and the tracking 1 degree toe - what will that help (over 0 degree standard?)


Paul_J

posted on 28th Mar 07 at 19:10

I'd want a fair amount of toe out at the front, slight toe in at the rear, and more negative camber at front than rear...

I'd like it over steery with a slidey rear.


Adam-D

posted on 28th Mar 07 at 18:51

ok cheers just wanted to sharpen up the feel and turn in of my sport,
tracking could be out and tyres are michelin i think, ill get tracking done and fit my good wheels see what effect that has


Dave A

posted on 28th Mar 07 at 18:47

need coilovers and adjustable top mounts. and somewhere with decent geometry setting stuff. not your local quickfit.


Adam-D

posted on 28th Mar 07 at 18:39

can anywhere set this up?

or do you need adjutable top mounts etc etc


Dave A

posted on 28th Mar 07 at 18:38

well we spent 3 hours on it and still didnt finish it, far too many distractions to have a proper go. but we did get it half done, this is where we got to:

1 degree negative camber
1 degree toe out
about 2-3 degrees negative castor (machine decided it didnt like doing castor and was playing up a bit)

didnt get to adjust the rear beam at all, will get it all finished on the weekend when the workshop is a bit quieter.

the difference it has made is fantastic, turns in so much better and grip seems endless, can push it round bends so much faster then before. will be getting it finished then off for some practice laps at teeside autodrome to see how it goes, I will get some vids:)


Cupra Steve

posted on 28th Mar 07 at 07:50

How much does it cost to have your suspension setup? As i'll hopefully be getting an adjustable set of spax shocks for the front and i haven't got a clue what i'm doing!!!


Adam-D

posted on 28th Mar 07 at 06:59

mine needs more feel, its a little remote atm, and doesnt seem as planted as it shud be,
ill see what happens when i fit my good wheels and tyres.


broster

posted on 28th Mar 07 at 06:57

quote:
Originally posted by Dave A
quote:
Originally posted by Robin
The settings you find best won't be right for other people though Dave :P


no but they will give people an ide of what to set theirs to as a guide, not everyone has access to £20k suspension setup equipment


I set mine up with equipment alot cheaper. and adjusted the rear beam......

makes a big difference tho, i recommend anyone does it to make the most of your suspension setup.


Jenko_Sport

posted on 27th Mar 07 at 21:35

Yea id say it could be very usefull for some people:thumbs:


Dave A

posted on 27th Mar 07 at 21:34

quote:
Originally posted by Robin
The settings you find best won't be right for other people though Dave :P


no but they will give people an ide of what to set theirs to as a guide, not everyone has access to £20k suspension setup equipment


Jake

posted on 27th Mar 07 at 21:32

will you be able to get a rough idea of factory toe settings for the rear. It is in haynes already but i'd like to know if its any different.

[Edited on 27-03-2007 by jake]


Robin

posted on 27th Mar 07 at 21:31

The settings you find best won't be right for other people though Dave :P


Dave A

posted on 27th Mar 07 at 21:29

not sure if anyone is interested but wondered if suspension settings are of any use to people as project Vsport is off to get the suspension and geometry all setup tomorrow on a proper computerised alignment testbed with corner weights etc...

we will be playing with settings on the camber, castor, toe, ride height, spring poundages etc until we find the best setup.

I am 90% sure they print out all of the results but if they dont I can write them down if anyone wants them?