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davcohen

posted on 30th Dec 06 at 21:54

i would say round twisty stuff the 1.6, having owned both my 1.6 actually handled very well where as the 2.0 would understeer also the 1.6 feels better balanced.

having the redtop is fun but driving fast round the twisty stuff made my rear feel so light


Rob B

posted on 30th Dec 06 at 19:34

running same bhp is his question, not same torque blah blah

Muppetsport is right, 2ltr will pull away due to torque.


Nic Barnes

posted on 30th Dec 06 at 16:50

quote:
Originally posted by Dave A
who mentioned torque?

the comment was about mid range. that could be mid range power, acceleration.....

muppet, stop being a badger


just stating an opinion. i know it isnt allowed anymore as im treading on thin ice. but might aswell make the most out of my time left


Dave A

posted on 30th Dec 06 at 16:48

who mentioned torque?

the comment was about mid range. that could be mid range power, acceleration.....

muppet, stop being a badger


Nic Barnes

posted on 30th Dec 06 at 16:46

quote:
Originally posted by Dave A
quote:
Originally posted by Marc
1.6 will always lack the mid range of the 2.0


not if set up and mapped properly.


so you can map it to overcome the lack of tourque dave? i smell a regal 1.2 turbo type comment


Dave A

posted on 30th Dec 06 at 15:25

quote:
Originally posted by Marc
1.6 will always lack the mid range of the 2.0


not if set up and mapped properly.


LeeM

posted on 30th Dec 06 at 15:20

quote:
Originally posted by Dave A
all down to who is driving. when my mate had a 2 litre corsa and I had a 1.6, mantzel, mapped etc... was running around 150 bhp there wasnt much in it in a straight line up to 90ish then the 2 litre would pull better due to gearing and more torque

with my current spec (tb's 180bhp) it pulls away from 2 litre corsas pretty easily, especially if theres a bends. also having proper suspension and brakes makes a massive difference.


id rather have a 1.6 like ures than a 2.0 to be honest, but i love the sound of throttle bodies so im biased


Marc

posted on 30th Dec 06 at 15:20

1.6 will always lack the mid range of the 2.0


Dave A

posted on 30th Dec 06 at 15:17

all down to who is driving. when my mate had a 2 litre corsa and I had a 1.6, mantzel, mapped etc... was running around 150 bhp there wasnt much in it in a straight line up to 90ish then the 2 litre would pull better due to gearing and more torque

with my current spec (tb's 180bhp) it pulls away from 2 litre corsas pretty easily, especially if theres a bends. also having proper suspension and brakes makes a massive difference.


L30 SCT

posted on 30th Dec 06 at 10:17

quote:
Originally posted by muppetsport
first 3 gears would be similar match but i would say the 2litre torque would have an advantage once into 4th and 5th.


agreed. i think that the 2.0 would pull away ever so slightly when it get close to 4th and 5th.


Nic Barnes

posted on 30th Dec 06 at 02:02

quote:
Originally posted by lee_wee
goin from what ive read on various forums (which makes me an engine professional doncha know)
the 2.0 would handle like absolute dog poo on a track cos it weighs so much more so the 1.6 would have it on a track

really i dont know at all


realistically, indeed that is true

then taking into account driver skill it really isnt an easy debate, if the same person drove both cars round a track, again it depends what track etc.

its the age old argument of no proof vs heresay (not the vboa approved shit pop band)


LeeM

posted on 30th Dec 06 at 01:43

goin from what ive read on various forums (which makes me an engine professional doncha know)
the 2.0 would handle like absolute dog poo on a track cos it weighs so much more so the 1.6 would have it on a track

really i dont know at all


dan-h

posted on 30th Dec 06 at 01:32

quote:
Originally posted by muppetsport
first 3 gears would be similar match but i would say the 2litre torque would have an advantage once into 4th and 5th.


agreed:)


IvIarkgraham

posted on 30th Dec 06 at 01:28

although adams was good on the track


IvIarkgraham

posted on 30th Dec 06 at 01:28

on a track i would say the 1.6


Nic Barnes

posted on 30th Dec 06 at 01:20

first 3 gears would be similar match but i would say the 2litre torque would have an advantage once into 4th and 5th.


Adam_B

posted on 30th Dec 06 at 01:17

you wouldnt notice anything in it on the road.


jmdsouth

Icon depicting mood of post posted on 30th Dec 06 at 01:15

Hi if you modded a corsa sport 1.6 or GSI engine to around 150bhp with whatever it would need as in dbilas / mantzel inlet / tb's / cams / remaped ecu etc which is roughly what a standard 2ltr red top is in bhp? which would be quicker? the corsa sport or corsa 2ltr? im guessing the 1.6 would not have the same torque as the 2ltr but it would be a lighter engine possibly meaning faster acceleration plus better handling?:boggle: