I have a 4th gen colour iPod... Ive yet to see how long a full charge wud last but i think no more than 7 hrs :S

which is a piece of piss...

You really only need iTunes aslong as the iPod has been used with a PC in the past. If the previous user's had it with a Mac, you'll need to rewrite the iPod with the PC-friendly version of the software.

antscorsa, go for it. I have a 3G one and its great!

i THINK my mate has a 3rd gen iPod.

The battery life they state is at optimum conditions, e.g. moderate sound, little use, just leaving it on basically. Like said above you'll be lucky to get 6 hours really.

for £35 you can't go wrong really

I've got an Archos AV440. Plays films too, and stores photos. Bit bigger and heavier than the i-pod, but more for your money

any1 got a 2nd gen ipod

Or you could get yourself one of these:

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=76210

Got mine a few days back, its cool.

well it 20 quid with ipod on its own, 15 quid fora charger off ebay, i reckon that quite a bargian, comes with firewire lead aswell, just no software

not sure what gen but if that have lost the power to play it will cost ya about £80 to replace tho apple and u have to send unit to aapple as well
get yourself a PDA with good specs
then u can watch dvd play any mp3's and not worry about lience to the music you have on it

you are doing well to get 6 hours from a full charge.

why are they meant to be dodgy then, i heard they dont last but aparently it get 8 hours playback per charge, whihc i dindt think was much for an ipod altho i havent a clue

check the battery out mate

are u sure thats all i need

its all on the apple website. Need Itunes too

http://www.apple.com/ipod/download/

might b buying an ipod 2nd generation but it has no software disc, where can i find the disc to download etc.