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vibrio	posted on 23rd Dec 04 at 22:50
	quote: Originally posted by Drysdale I'm seriously looking at one of these. In Performance blue. Not sure whether to go for the optional side door stripes? ;) BTW! Top gear are testing the ST on Sunday (boxing day), putting it up against a C2 VTS! [Edited on 23-12-2004 by Drysdale] 2.0L vs a 1.6 PGTF
Adam_B	posted on 23rd Dec 04 at 22:29
	is performance blue faster than normal blue?
Drysdale	posted on 23rd Dec 04 at 22:26
	I'm seriously looking at one of these. In Performance blue. Not sure whether to go for the optional side door stripes? ;) BTW! Top gear are testing the ST on Sunday (boxing day), putting it up against a C2 VTS! [Edited on 23-12-2004 by Drysdale]
Paul_J	posted on 23rd Dec 04 at 22:16
	Is that vid castle combe?
fax2004	posted on 23rd Dec 04 at 19:24
	quote: Originally posted by Welsh_SXi does it have a 6 sp box aswell??? Nah, only 5 speed
Ian	posted on 23rd Dec 04 at 18:47
	quote: Originally posted by Welsh_SXi Pass_M3.wmv need i say more? The BMW didn't have the correct lines. [Edited on 23-12-2004 by Ian]
BlueCorsa	posted on 23rd Dec 04 at 18:39
	quote: Originally posted by fax2004 Also got a new Focus in the showroom, and they're alot better in the flesh than they are in pictures. Not allowed on the rd in that tho, cos not out until middle of jan. They're awful! The shape has grown on me a little, but I still prefer the old style one. Having said that, the Saloon shape and the Focus CC (from the concept) do look nice.
vibrio	posted on 23rd Dec 04 at 18:02
	quote: Originally posted by Welsh_SXi quote: Originally posted by vibrio I suspect the ford will be built better. it's not all about speed. Ok the clio 182 is renowned for its average build quality but ive heard from alot of people who own 172s 182s and they say they have had hardly no problems with it.... 172 182's stick to the road like shit and to be honest their lovely looking cars... http://deadboyfriend.com/markbriggs/video/Pass_M3.wmv need i say more? :thumbs: ford racing puma quicker round a track than the 172 :thumbs: les power, less torque slower 0-100mph.
Dean_H	posted on 23rd Dec 04 at 17:55
	quote: Originally posted by vibrio I suspect the ford will be built better. it's not all about speed. Ok the clio 182 is renowned for its average build quality but ive heard from alot of people who own 172s 182s and they say they have had hardly no problems with it.... 172 182's stick to the road like shit and to be honest their lovely looking cars... http://deadboyfriend.com/markbriggs/video/Pass_M3.wmv need i say more? :thumbs:
vibrio	posted on 23rd Dec 04 at 17:49
	I suspect the ford will be built better. it's not all about speed.
Dean_H	posted on 23rd Dec 04 at 17:47
	but are ford making their figures look worse than what they really are, like they have done with the fiesta zetec s and like peugeot have done with the 106 gti (to lower the insurance group of the car) Find it hard to beleive it only does 8sec to 60 does it have a 6 sp box aswell???
Nismo	posted on 23rd Dec 04 at 17:46
	quote: Originally posted by Welsh_SXi clio 182 any day of the week for me, except for the shitty seats :( :thumbs:
Dean_H	posted on 23rd Dec 04 at 17:43
	clio 182 any day of the week for me, except for the shitty seats :(
Half Pint	posted on 23rd Dec 04 at 15:27
	the 182 Clio still gets the top spot according to a car mag i was reading the other day. and the stats are worse than my CLio which is nearly 10 years old !
Tom	posted on 23rd Dec 04 at 15:25
	poo :\|
Marc D	posted on 23rd Dec 04 at 15:23
	ford finally making some hot hatches again
Marc	posted on 23rd Dec 04 at 15:21
	0-60 in 8sec is bit crap, 130mph top speed is reasonable though.
fax2004	posted on 23rd Dec 04 at 15:20
	give or take
Marc	posted on 23rd Dec 04 at 15:17
	147bhp ;)
fax2004	posted on 23rd Dec 04 at 15:10
	OMG, i want one now. We had one delivered this morning for a customer, and lucky ol me got it on PDI! Looks stunning in red, and the seats are so comfy, you can actually go round a corner at more than 30MPH and not fall out, unlike standard fiesta seats! Its got a nice exhaust rumble as standard, and is impressively fast, 150BHP. Also got a new Focus in the showroom, and they're alot better in the flesh than they are in pictures. Not allowed on the rd in that tho, cos not out until middle of jan.