corsasport.co.uk
 

Corsa Sport » Message Board » General Chat » update on my engine » Post Reply

Post Reply
Who Can Post? All users can post new topics and all users can reply.
Icon:
Formatting Mode:
Normal
Advanced
Help

Insert Bold text Insert Italicized text Insert Underlined text Insert Centered text Insert a Hyperlink Insert Email Hyperlink Insert an Image Insert Code Formatted text Insert Quoted text
Message:
HTML is Off
Smilies are On
BB Code is On
[img] Code is On
Post Options: Disable smileys?
Turn BBCode off?
Receive email notification of new replies?

broster

posted on 15th Sep 06 at 14:25

quote:
Originally posted by davey_jack
True but max power tends to work good on a car used for drag racing, where as Dave's setup is better for road use, or circuit racing.


nope, torque is good for drag strips, hence you have big american v8's doing fast times, i.e. danny bates f150


Robin

posted on 14th Sep 06 at 22:59

its not about figures, its about the torque curve. the flatter the curve, the better the car is to drive.


davey_jack

posted on 14th Sep 06 at 22:54

True but max power tends to work good on a car used for drag racing, where as Dave's setup is better for road use, or circuit racing.


broster

posted on 14th Sep 06 at 22:46

quote:
Originally posted by davey_jack
Seems like Dave has got the right idea with producing more usable power as opposed to a higher max power figure, your new firm should be pretty successful!


Higher max power figures are good in moderation, eg i had 190bhp but i had alot of usable power aswell, would be interesting to overlay my graph with daves.....


TNM

posted on 14th Sep 06 at 21:42

quote:
Originally posted by Paul_J
broster I think my car's falling into the 'die' category... Not sure if it's mapping related or what.

but car keeps stopping and cutting out when I'm sitting at lights idling, or busy junctions...

Then I'm unable to start the car again for at least 5 mins.

Fucking pain in the arse in rush hour to work, keep the revs up and you look like a boy racer, let them fall and you block loads of rush hour drivers in who are not happy.

Now starting to mis fire when driving normally :(


stepper motor


davey_jack

posted on 14th Sep 06 at 21:34

Seems like Dave has got the right idea with producing more usable power as opposed to a higher max power figure, your new firm should be pretty successful!


Dave A

posted on 14th Sep 06 at 18:44

only one....


broster

posted on 14th Sep 06 at 18:14

cool, i took the dgrinder to the bulk head its so much fun lol, heater matrix is now out aswell as it the fan etc.....

it actaully costs a lot to have a light car lol!

got any pics with your cage?


Dave A

posted on 14th Sep 06 at 18:11

broster, mine is now sort of stripped with cage and buckets. still have the front doorcards and dash.


broster

posted on 14th Sep 06 at 18:10

paul, i wouldnt say thats mapping related, the map wont physically change from one dayu to the next, it sounds more sensor related.... seems like it could be lean when its hot, hence the issue with starting it....... get it booked in somewhere and see what they can do.


Paul_J

posted on 14th Sep 06 at 18:08

broster I think my car's falling into the 'die' category... Not sure if it's mapping related or what.

but car keeps stopping and cutting out when I'm sitting at lights idling, or busy junctions...

Then I'm unable to start the car again for at least 5 mins.

Fucking pain in the arse in rush hour to work, keep the revs up and you look like a boy racer, let them fall and you block loads of rush hour drivers in who are not happy.

Now starting to mis fire when driving normally :(


broster

posted on 14th Sep 06 at 18:08

i was happy with mine for ages, was tempted to just leave it as it was really but then the inevitable happened, so it was either go standard bottom end ported head and standard cams or go all out.

im excited to see how it does when i have completed it, it shouldn't cost to much will have stuff that wont necessarily be really needed to run the power im after but hay everyone loves trick stuff lol!

id like to see how yours compared to my old spec, yours has interior still yes?


Dave A

posted on 14th Sep 06 at 18:05

cant wait for it to be finished mark (yours that is) might give me the motivation to do more with mine.


broster

posted on 14th Sep 06 at 18:01

quote:
Originally posted by Dave A
enough of the 'catching up' mark.

at least mine works:P


pmsl, i have bits flying in to fix mine, just no money at the moment to buy one vital part, soon as i have the money for that ill be back with lots of ponies.


good work tho, its good to see more development from the 1.6's, there wasnt much development for ages, only andy h really, now we have a small handful of tb's 1.6's.


Gregor

posted on 14th Sep 06 at 17:20

Bloody hell that must be quick


Dave A

posted on 14th Sep 06 at 17:12

enough of the 'catching up' mark.

at least mine works:P


broster

posted on 14th Sep 06 at 13:58

man people are catching up slowly lol! 14bhp more to go for the standard rods and pistons record haha!


mapping is a massave part of how the engine works, infact its the biggest part, you can throw all the money at it you want, but without the right mapping it will either die or not make power.

:thumbs:


Dean_W

posted on 14th Sep 06 at 12:04

I don't think i can draw a line that straight myself :lol:

Good result Dave :thumbs:


RKS

posted on 14th Sep 06 at 12:02

Good results matey :)


CorsaChris12

posted on 14th Sep 06 at 11:56

I want lol next time am up mate will have to take us out in it. :thumbs:


Marc

posted on 14th Sep 06 at 11:44

Still a healthy figure. :thumbs:


Dave A

posted on 14th Sep 06 at 10:20

apart from it taken on a dodgy angle on my phone:lol:


Robin

posted on 14th Sep 06 at 10:17

graph looks good.


Dave A

posted on 14th Sep 06 at 10:13

after stripping down the throttle bodies, cleaning and rebalancing them and a bit more mapping and some cam timing adjustments its now making much better, more usable power. rather than a 8500 rpm limit its making the power a lot lower down, I have sacrificed 3.6 bhp and 6 ft/lb of torque but the benefits are massive. its now making a perfectly smooth torque curve all the way to 7600 rpm and max power is now at 7700 rpm so rather than torque dropping off at high rpm it pulls so hard all the way to the limiter and is startaight back into the power after gearchanges.

new figures are 176 bhp and 124 ft/lb of torque.



just goes to show that its not about the figures, its all in the mapping and how the power is delivered and how usable it is. also now its making max power 800rpm lower my engine should last a bit longer:)