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Dave A	posted on 7th May 05 at 07:58
	ive had both the c16xe and the x16xe. didnt notice any difference in the two as standard, id go for the x16xe personally as they are newer with more low milage ones about, and the c16xe will need piston rings and valve stem seals at 70-80k they all seem to start smoking at this point.
Cybermonkey	posted on 7th May 05 at 06:56
	No Vauxhall dont do that, but it is easily possible. Honda's are just revvy junk with silly rev limits.
James	posted on 6th May 05 at 23:56
	Like you said Ash, go for the newer model, chances of lower mileage for the sake of 3bhp and slightly better response to tuning quote: Originally posted by Vinyl Matt vaux 2.0 have only 145bhp std? dont honda 2.0's have 200? Yup Honda manage to squeeze 240bhp out of the 2.0 they stick in the S2000, its a shame Vaux cant do that
Matt G	posted on 6th May 05 at 23:07
	vaux 2.0 have only 145bhp std? dont honda 2.0's have 200?
ash_corsa	posted on 6th May 05 at 23:00
	2.0 16v! 145bhp standard!
vibrio	posted on 6th May 05 at 22:56
	:(
AK	posted on 6th May 05 at 22:47
	nice :lol:
ash_corsa	posted on 6th May 05 at 22:29
	thinkin of an almera gti now!
James_DT	posted on 6th May 05 at 21:15
	Buy the Ecotec, it'll be newer with lower mileage.
Joff	posted on 6th May 05 at 21:15
	Ecotec or non-Ecotec, the engines are both pretty shite. Go for the best condition car/mileage you can find for your money.
ash_corsa	posted on 6th May 05 at 21:14
	what does that mean? basicaly, should i struggle for ages to buy a good condition pre-ecotec or buy one of the many ecotec out there, il have about £2k - 2.5k to spend
Ojc	posted on 6th May 05 at 19:16
	quote: Originally posted by Sam Ecotec just has EGR system and more restricted inlet for emissions purposes. I think the bottom end is the same - but I could be wrong? X16XE has that the C16XE does not have 1. Secondary air pump 2. EGR valve 3. Map sensor 4. And another sensor that I can't remember
vibrio	posted on 6th May 05 at 19:08
	quote: Originally posted by Marc Wasnt the pre ecotec a weaker engine though? Or is kolin a homo? kolin a h v omoe which ever car you choose
Adam-D	posted on 6th May 05 at 19:03
	bottom ends are the same pre-has a better head
Sly_SRi	posted on 6th May 05 at 19:01
	trouble with a pre-ecotec is that you'll have trouble finding one thats in gd condition.
Sam	posted on 6th May 05 at 18:36
	Ecotec just has EGR system and more restricted inlet for emissions purposes. I think the bottom end is the same - but I could be wrong?
Marc	posted on 6th May 05 at 18:33
	Wasnt the pre ecotec a weaker engine though? Or is kolin a homo?
ash_corsa	posted on 6th May 05 at 18:30
	yeh think i will, would rather have lower mileage than 3bhp!
Adam-D	posted on 6th May 05 at 18:29
	pre-ecotec has better head flow better cams plus ecotec has ecotec shite stuck all over it
AK	posted on 6th May 05 at 18:28
	both much the same... go for the newest, least mileage you can afford
Marc D	posted on 6th May 05 at 18:08
	pre-ecotec has 109bhp, ecotec has 106bhp. not sure about fuel comsumption
ash_corsa	posted on 6th May 05 at 18:07
	what is your gsi?
LingardGSI	posted on 6th May 05 at 17:59
	i am not to sure about proformance but if i was u i would try and keep away from eco-tech just my personal opinion.
ash_corsa	posted on 6th May 05 at 17:50
	Lookin for a GSi corsa but should i go for the ecotec or the pre ecotec? whats the performance diffrence and the fuel consumption difrence? cheers