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[quote][i]Originally posted by Balling[/i] [quote][i]Originally posted by MoesTavern[/i] Making fun of one group specifically rather than others is discriminating against that specific group, is it not?[/quote]It's not, no. Look up the word. [quote][i]Originally posted by MoesTavern[/i] French Muslims. Who are largely a poor, immigrant section of French society. I'd hardly be talking about Muslims in general, would I? As you say there are rather a lot of them.[/quote]I'm not aware that Charlie Hebdo has been targeting French muslims specifically, rather muslim extremists in general. Either way, whether their humour is in good taste is beside the point. [quote][i]Originally posted by MoesTavern[/i] I believe in censorship in certain situations depending on the context, yes. I realise that's not very trendy at the minute but anyway.[/quote]And who are to determine what should be censored? Once you start agreeing to censorship you're on a slippery slope leading to a government taking control of basic things, like what you're allowed to see on the internet. There's a reason why the UK and your recent pornography laws is the laughing stock of the rest of the developed world. [quote][i]Originally posted by MoesTavern[/i] My point (such as it is) is that while I abhor the thought of somebody being killed over a cartoon, I also realise that there are many people out there who may not feel the same way. As such provoking these people is not a sensible idea. The consequences of your actions need to be considered, whether or not you agree that such consequences should occur. (And no, that's not the same as saying they had it coming)[/quote]If you're not saying they shouldn't have made provoking drawings and you don't think they had it coming, what are you saying exactly? Because it reads that way to me. You wouldn't have done the same? That's fine. Free speech isn't about agreeing with everybody. It's about not getting killed by the people that disagree with you. The fact that you're trying to play down these killings is shameful and distasteful. [quote][i]Originally posted by MoesTavern[/i] I also have a problem with #JeSuisCharlie itself, as (in my opinion, of course) Charlie Hebdo is a shitty rag filled with questionable material, and not worthy of being held up as an example of free speech.[/quote]If you choose to interpret "Je suis Charlie" as "I agree with everything they've ever said, drawn or written" that's on you. That's not what is meant by it, though. You can look that up as well. If you don't think Charlie Hebdo is worthy of the attention they're getting, you'll have to take that up with the people behind the killing of 12 of their employees. Again, it does sound like you do indeed think that the content of the magazine is a mitigating circumstance in the killings, which is kind of sad. [/quote]
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