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[quote][i]Originally posted by RichR[/i] u eegit - before take off - there is contact between the wheels and groundplane - the wheels are attached to the plane, if the wheels are in a static location, the plane has no forward momentum - oh I cant be arsed read my replies above your whole argument lacks any merit when its on the ground the forward momentum is translated through the wheels to the groundplane if these can not move to or fro - then the plane can not inhibit signs of forward momentum and as such cant produce lift, your argument only works if the wheels are never in contact with the groundplane - in which case it doesnt matter if its over a fucking conveyor or paddling pool full of ky jelly and dime bars [/quote]
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