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Daimo B

posted on 17th Sep 03 at 13:59

This is true, but, how i think.

Ptissshhhhhh turbo and DV

or
BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHBBAAA BRRAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH pop pop :D or Throttle Bodies.

Unltimatly though, the turbo should always have the outright best performance :(


Kris TD

posted on 17th Sep 03 at 12:45

quote:
Originally posted by MikeH
Wish i had a turbo.... i think they are just fundamentally better in all respects :)


yep :)


MikeH

posted on 17th Sep 03 at 12:44

Wish i had a turbo.... i think they are just fundamentally better in all respects :)


Kris TD

posted on 17th Sep 03 at 12:42

yeah cos back pressure on a turbo slows the turbo down.


OzzySRi

posted on 17th Sep 03 at 10:51

yeah theres alot of crap involved with exhausts. Turbos can go large (3") and not be excessively loud coz the turbo itself acts as a muffler.

But there is also considerations about gas velocity. Hot air moves quicker than cold air. By going overly large on an N/A car results in the exhaust gases cooling early in the system. Having the right sized pipe keeps things hot n moving quickly aiding combustion chamber scavenging. U'll also notice that alot of systems purposly put a slight restriction after the cat to create a heat build up which makes the cat work better


Daimo B

posted on 17th Sep 03 at 09:47

As above.

Also, different size exhaust bores can determin the overall power of the car. I can't remember which way round it it, but its something like, the smaller the exhaust bore, the better lower end torque/performance the car will have, the larger the bore, the more top end performance the car will have.

Also, a turbo'd car works differently. You want to get the exhaust gases away fromt eh turbo as quickly as possible hence most turbo bores are usually bigger.


OzzySRi

posted on 17th Sep 03 at 08:30

its all got to do with the combustion chamber. If ur familiar with the 4stroke cycle (1.suck/intake, 2.squeeze/compression, 3.bang/ignition, 4.blow/exhaust) u'll get what i mean.

As the motor goes from the exhaust cycle back to the intake cycle (the top of the piston stroke) there is a thing called 'overlap' caused by the fundamental design of the camshaft.

During this period of 'overlap' the exhaust valves are about to close the intake valves are beginning to open (both intake/exhaust are partially open). Without any backpressure in the exhaust system, the new air/fuel mix will simply pass thru the motor during the overlap... meaning less air/fuel mix in the combustion chamber for the next cycle.

So having backpressure helps keep more of the flamable stuff in so u get a bigger bang.. more power.

Well, thats the technical BS behind it :thumbs:

[Edited on 17-09-2003 by OzzySRi]

[Edited on 17-09-2003 by OzzySRi]


Adam_B

posted on 16th Sep 03 at 20:25

if u have no back pressure u will get more bhp at higher revs but fuck all power down at the bottom. i think :)


AdamF

posted on 16th Sep 03 at 20:08

dont no exactly but i do no it overfuels without it


MikeH

posted on 16th Sep 03 at 19:36

Just always wondered.