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Vaux Lad	posted on 7th Jul 08 at 17:07
	And for the record, theres no such thing as a warped disc :) The vibration you feel is caused by pad deposits left on the disc, which cause "high spots" on its surface making it uneven.
gavin18787	posted on 7th Jul 08 at 16:45
	What about the wheels been out of balance?
Olsrey	posted on 7th Jul 08 at 16:36
	quote: Originally posted by Dean_W Get your lube out Jambo......:P BMW parts are a lot cheaper than you'd think.
Dave A	posted on 7th Jul 08 at 15:32
	not that expensive actually, just checked :)
Dean_W	posted on 7th Jul 08 at 15:30
	Get your lube out Jambo......:P
Dave A	posted on 7th Jul 08 at 15:27
	also worth mentioning that when discs warp they distort the shape of the pads so they will need doing at the same time ;)
Jambo	posted on 7th Jul 08 at 15:23
	:thumbs:
Dave A	posted on 7th Jul 08 at 15:23
	if its felt through the steering wheel its highly likley to be fronts mate.
Jambo	posted on 7th Jul 08 at 15:22
	fronts or rears tho!
GT190	posted on 7th Jul 08 at 15:17
	yeh sounds like your disks are gone mate
Jambo	posted on 7th Jul 08 at 15:15
	quote: Originally posted by Dave A if you feel it through the wheel and pedal its likley to be the fronts. if you feel it just through the pedal it could be the rears. if tracking and suspension is all ok then does the juddering increase at higher speeds and decrease as the car slows down? Yes dave, if i brake from say 70mph it judders alot. If i brake from like 30 then you barely feel it. The wheel and the pedal judder, wheel is more pronounced.
Jenko_Sport	posted on 7th Jul 08 at 15:15
	If its just under braking then it will more than likely be your discs are warped
Jambo	posted on 7th Jul 08 at 15:14
	They would have been fooked before, the steering was awfull. Im pretty sure if anyone did it it was me :lol:
Dave A	posted on 7th Jul 08 at 15:14
	if you feel it through the wheel and pedal its likley to be the fronts. if you feel it just through the pedal it could be the rears. if tracking and suspension is all ok then does the juddering increase at higher speeds and decrease as the car slows down? [Edited on 07-07-2008 by Dave A]
Dean_W	posted on 7th Jul 08 at 15:13
	Mr. BMW man must have taken it out for test and cooked the buggers!
Jambo	posted on 7th Jul 08 at 15:11
	just braking Dave
Dave A	posted on 7th Jul 08 at 15:10
	do you experience the juddering under normal driving or just under braking?
Jambo	posted on 7th Jul 08 at 15:08
	What are the symptoms? Since having my steering repaired i have experienced juddering under braking from the steering wheel and the pedal. Tracking is ok and nothing is bent. How do i tell which are warped? Fronts or backs? To the naked eye they all look ok, but aparently unless measured you cant tell just by looking. How do you tell the difference between front and back? :wave: