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JoeyB	posted on 30th May 08 at 12:00
	quote: Originally posted by johnhara1 quote: Originally posted by Kevxx i run mine with no power steering, bit of a cunt to park but i prefer the feel, and at high speeds i want feel! I drove my cousins Corsa C SRi 1.8 and it has that steering that gets heavier the faster you drive. Now thats :cool: lol mine does that if i turn the wheel really quickly... though i don't think that is a feature pmsl
johnhara1	posted on 30th May 08 at 11:48
	quote: Originally posted by Kevxx i run mine with no power steering, bit of a cunt to park but i prefer the feel, and at high speeds i want feel! I drove my cousins Corsa C SRi 1.8 and it has that steering that gets heavier the faster you drive. Now thats :cool:
Kevxx	posted on 30th May 08 at 11:31
	i run mine with no power steering, bit of a cunt to park but i prefer the feel, and at high speeds i want feel!
alan-g-w	posted on 30th May 08 at 08:40
	quote: Originally posted by luke85 Theres a bit of a nack to it, you have to be rolling, even if its very very slowly then the wheel gets way easier to turn. I still wouldnt reccomend it over a PAS car though, Im just too lazy to fix mine at the mo Know exactly what you mean mate, feel like they're stuck to the road if you're sitting still :lol: I just got my replacement pipe/hosework in, need to get a bit of will to be arsed to take the bumper off to fit it.
luke85	posted on 29th May 08 at 23:52
	Theres a bit of a nack to it, you have to be rolling, even if its very very slowly then the wheel gets way easier to turn. I still wouldnt reccomend it over a PAS car though, Im just too lazy to fix mine at the mo
JoeyB	posted on 29th May 08 at 22:45
	I think its nothing to do with your build... At the time our Corsa didnt have PAS I was probably knocking on 17 stone and hitting the gym 5 times a week.....i STILL hated driving without PAS. At the end of the day if you get used to a car with PAS its horrible going to one without it.
Ste L	posted on 29th May 08 at 21:02
	if you want a rack without pas.. get the one from an epas corsa, then you still got the short lock to lock, like normal, but it's heavy like having no pas
davcohen	posted on 29th May 08 at 20:59
	quote: Originally posted by johnhara1 My mate bought davcohens old XE Corsa with PAS. Mine didnt have PAS. I much prefered mine when driving at speed and TBH the parking isnt an issue unless your a little weedy built guy. im not the biggest build but after driving my corsa td without PAS and a polybushed front end anything with PAS is just so much nicer to drive i guess it depends what your cars main use is going to be, i would still say its worth having be it your mates a beefy or a weedy guy
luke85	posted on 29th May 08 at 18:02
	Ive got a PAS setup on my corsa LET thats been running with no belt on it for nearly a year since one of the pipes burst. Saves on Gym membership
Dean_W	posted on 29th May 08 at 15:36
	Aye. When i took the PAS belt off my XE the next day i went to Doncaster over the cat and fiddle pass. My tits and arms were killing for a week!!
johnhara1	posted on 29th May 08 at 15:32
	quote: Originally posted by Dean_W If you take the belt off the pump on a car with PAS< it's heavy as fook. The non PAS rack is lighter to turn than the PAS rack with no working PAS......if that makes sense :lol: Aye mate thats right, i was towed to a garage in my 2.2DTi Vectra and fuck me im a big lad and it was hard work trying to turn a PAS rack without the engine on.
Dean_W	posted on 29th May 08 at 15:30
	If you take the belt off the pump on a car with PAS< it's heavy as fook. The non PAS rack is lighter to turn than the PAS rack with no working PAS......if that makes sense :lol:
johnhara1	posted on 29th May 08 at 15:28
	My mate bought davcohens old XE Corsa with PAS. Mine didnt have PAS. I much prefered mine when driving at speed and TBH the parking isnt an issue unless your a little weedy built guy.
alan-g-w	posted on 29th May 08 at 15:25
	quote: Originally posted by davcohen just makes you look like a fool when you come to park Amen to that. Currently waiting on a hose since one burst, not too pleasant to live with [Edited on 29-05-2008 by alan-g-w]
JoeyB	posted on 29th May 08 at 13:16
	Has he driven a Corsa without PAS? I retro fitted PAS to our Corsa when I did the conversion, other than the conversion itself adding PAS was the best thing I've done to the car. I can't see why anybody would want to remove it...unless its for ultimate weight loss purposes I guess?
davcohen	posted on 29th May 08 at 12:52
	yep and kind of pointless as having power steering does not take away from the feel just makes you look like a fool when you come to park
alan-g-w	posted on 29th May 08 at 07:11
	quote: Originally posted by luke85 You can stop it working by taking the belt off the pump but to take it out properly you will need a manual steering rack fitting and the assisted steering rack removing along with the pipes and pump Which would be quite a bit of hassle I'd imagine [Edited on 29-05-2008 by alan-g-w]
luke85	posted on 28th May 08 at 22:21
	You can stop it working by taking the belt off the pump but to take it out properly you will need a manual steering rack fitting and the assisted steering rack removing along with the pipes and pump
kylesxi	posted on 28th May 08 at 21:56
	needing to find out for a mate.hes got a corsa c20xe and its got power steering but he wants rid of it.what is involved in taking it out?