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AdiSRI

posted on 1st Apr 05 at 19:12

its NOT there are NO amps that are multi channel and bridge to 2 ohm, unless they can run a 1 ohm load on each channel which is very unlikely for the sony.

it can run individual, i.e. 4 .. 4 or 2 ohm loads, and it can bridge to 4 ohm, that is all.


Coopers_Corsa

posted on 30th Mar 05 at 22:08

that amp is 2 ohm capable, but it doesnt say 2 ohm stable (kinda worrying) but how will i know if its 2 ohm stable when bridged.


AdiSRI

posted on 30th Mar 05 at 14:33

monos will bridge to 4,2 and sometimes 1 ohm, nut multichannel amps will only bridge to a final 4 ohm load. so yeah either get another or flog it and buy a mono mate.


bass_direct

posted on 30th Mar 05 at 13:32

ah I thought it bridged to two ohm!

The best option then would be to sell the whole kit and buy some better gear!


AdiSRI

posted on 30th Mar 05 at 12:59

2 x 165W or 1 x 400W is the RMS.

they are single coil 4 ohm subs.

The amp will only bridge to a 4 ohm load, so there is no way u can bridge the amp to those 2 subs.

options are..

run one sub off each channel (way underpowered).

run one sub bridged off amp and get another amp the same to power the other sub (better option)

sell the amp and buy a proper mono, capable of 750w rms ish at 2 ohm (best option)


Coopers_Corsa

posted on 29th Mar 05 at 21:49

how exactly would i wire them in parallel, which way round do the wires need to be. is it positive of one sub to the positive of ch 1, then the negetive of the same sub to the other sub's positive, then the negetive of the other sub to the negetive of ch 2 of the amp. does that sound about right?

if it was my own system then i would tinker around with it for a bit but as its a mates i want to get it right first time.

cheers people


bass_direct

posted on 29th Mar 05 at 21:35

I think it'll be underpowering them anyway. Bridge the two channels, wire the subs paralell for a 2ohm load on the amp..... It'll probably be underpowering them anyway (the manufacturer doesn't state real RMS ratings.. wonder y lol) .............


Coopers_Corsa

posted on 29th Mar 05 at 21:22

right then, i have been given some wrong information. the model number of the amp is sony XM2165GTX and a link too it is:

http://www.dealclick.co.uk/product/55820/SONY-XM2165GTX.php

so could i just bridge ch 1 + 2 and wire them in parallel to over-power them but just use the gain setting wisely, or just wire them up normally to each channel and under-power them?

now as for the box, the box has been made too fit the boot, so none of the manufactors specs have been taken into consideration at all. but still would it be best just to box up the frame ie put walls n floor all round it with some 180mm mdf or something? lol help!


bass_direct

posted on 29th Mar 05 at 04:53

ahh fook, jus realised you said 4ch amp!


bass_direct

posted on 29th Mar 05 at 04:52

might be the same sub as in this possibly??


http://www.corsasport.co.uk/board/viewthread.php?tid=206936


Dom

posted on 29th Mar 05 at 00:13

if the sub isnt free air running, then it CAN do damage to the coils - so i would really recommend that he gets his "mate" to build him a propper box to the specs that sony recommend etc

as for the amp, i believe (if its the one im thinking) there like 400-500wRMS, so hes gonna be under running them - again, not the brightest of ideas. However, wire them in parallel and see what happens :lol:


corsaggh

posted on 28th Mar 05 at 22:12

the manual that comes with the amp should tell you how to wire up a pair of subs.
You will more than likely bridge channel 1+2 for one sub. and bridge 3+4 for the other sub.

Most subwoofers need an encloseure in order to work properly.
Work out the size box you need, go up B&Q get 18mm MDF and get them to cut the wood for you. then its just a case of assembling the box together. Or buy a ready made box from halfords or motorworld.


SteveW

posted on 28th Mar 05 at 22:10

well the fact that they probably arent free air subs will make them sound like a big pile of poop.. get the box sorted first mate.. as for the amp wiring situation....

i cant find the specs of the 1000w amp anywhere.. if you can get the model number of the amp then thats all good :)


Coopers_Corsa

Icon depicting mood of post posted on 28th Mar 05 at 21:30

Right then, next weekend i am fitting an amp to my mates MG ZR and wiring up two subs too it. he's got a full sony xplod :look: install (he wont listen :lol:). the amp he is getting is a 1000w max unsure of rms 4ch bridgeable amp and he has two xplod 1200w max 350w rms subs to be wired from the amp. now powering the amp etc is not a problem, jus wondering which will be the best way to wire the subs into the amp. ie. just wire one sub bridged into ch 1 + 2 n the other in 3 + 4. or wire them up in parallel or series :boggle: all kind of confusing really. not sure what ohm stable the amp is or the subs. they are both single voice coil subs thow. so any help on that would be much aprechiated.

and also, he had 1 of his mates make him a box to fit the subs in, but its just like a frame, no walls on the box, like the subs will be open air, not all enclosed. will that make much difference to the sound of it all just out of curiosity?

any help would be spon on people :thumbs: