na, my mate had the velos and even he said the response between mine (mantzel) and his (velos) was far better on mine, both same engines. you get what you pay for these day, nothing is cheaper and gives the same as a dearer product. debilias is good to:thumbs:

[Edited on 30-08-2004 by Col004]

or dbilias but mega pricey!

looks better yea but performance and cost mean velos is the best choice IMO:thumbs:

dig your hand in your pocket and get a mantzel. well better

bout +15-25 bhp with a decent chip and setup around 10-16ish i think with standard ecu

just got one of ebay last week for 200... :) keep looking round

They've closed down have they, s**t. I wanted one of those too, can you get them newhere else?

Where you getting it from coz Velos have closed down.

Thinkin of gettin me a Velos Torq Tube, anyone know if they're any good? I already have a shielded RamAir cone filter, stainless de-cat pipe and stainless cat-back system, What sort of figures will I be looking at with a torq Tube???:thumbs: