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miles |
posted on 22nd Jan 04 at 20:15 |
Yeah but the turbo will have some lag, poor throttle response and a narrow power band. | |
Daimo B |
posted on 22nd Jan 04 at 19:59 |
But if both have the same BHP and the redtop more torque the redtop will still win. | |
corsa120 |
posted on 22nd Jan 04 at 19:53 |
torque is gr8 but,,, | |
Daimo B |
posted on 22nd Jan 04 at 19:23 |
Yeah, but your nova is damn fast, damn damn fast for some reason :lol: | |
miles |
posted on 22nd Jan 04 at 18:03 |
I know what you mean Kris, but it all counts on the strip. I can notice if I have one passenger. | |
A_Venables |
posted on 22nd Jan 04 at 17:59 |
You also have to take in to account the cornering abilities with a car that has 50kg less? Even if you had a C16XE making 200bhp would the gearbox be ok? if it is a F16 you must be getting near to its torque capabilities if you know what I mean :rolleyes: | |
Kris TD |
posted on 22nd Jan 04 at 17:43 |
quote: true but 50kg when the cars have that sort of power isnt really gonna effect it, like my mate used to have a clio rt, now when you stuck people in it it killed acceleration, now he has a clio 16v and it doesnt make a gret deal of dfference if there is extra people. | |
miles |
posted on 22nd Jan 04 at 17:23 |
That took me more than 5 minutes to write LOL!!! | |
miles |
posted on 22nd Jan 04 at 17:20 |
So when you do the 1/4 mile you drive it low down the rev range? Only having power and torque up the rev range wont make much of a difference on the 1/4 mile as your only there in first, and having it mild there will help with traction. | |
vibrio |
posted on 22nd Jan 04 at 17:15 |
as for the car. 2.0L with 200hp | |
vibrio |
posted on 22nd Jan 04 at 17:15 |
quote: no it is the spread and level of torque that is required along with revs. this is why the CTR has 197hp but a peak of 145lb but the astra has 190ish 180lb ft. the astra produces more torque lower down the rev range. the CTR is closely geared to make use of the high revs and lowish torque figure | |
Kris TD |
posted on 22nd Jan 04 at 17:10 |
weight of the engine wont make that much difference, depends wat the otehr car is like , ie stripped out? | |
luca2020 |
posted on 22nd Jan 04 at 17:08 |
2.0 would, bhp means nothing compared to tourqe | |
IntaCepta |
posted on 22nd Jan 04 at 17:05 |
yep i would imagine the 2000cc would be much more torqier than the 1600cc due to the bigger displacement! | |
J4MIE P |
posted on 21st Jan 04 at 23:59 |
quote: No the 2.0 would produce more torque lower down and therefore be faster accelerating (if you discount gearbox) Remember torque is what you want when you are accelerating. Overall Power is only used at Vmax and therefore irrelevant when considering acceleration. Look at the evidence: Astra coupe:187 bhp @ 5400rpm 184 lb @ 5300rpm 0-60 6.9 secs 0-100 19.9 secs Toyota corolla T sport: 189 bhp @ 7800rpm 133 lb @ 6800rpm 0-60 8.4 secs Even tho the corolla has more power, its not as fast cos all the power is top end. This is what the 1.6 with 200bhp would be like. All the power will be top end. When it comes to torque, there is no replacment for displacement. (or a turbo) Sorry for the essay :rolleyes: | |
Mattb |
posted on 21st Jan 04 at 22:05 |
1.6, closer ratio gearbox :thumbs: | |
psycho sport |
posted on 21st Jan 04 at 21:45 |
what about the torque produced by both engines? would they be the same? | |
Ian |
posted on 21st Jan 04 at 21:43 |
If they're generating the same amount of power then they'd be as quick. The power delivery might affect things but it could go either way. Worth mentioning that it's far cheaper to get a 2 litre to 200bhp than a 1600. Perhaps the 2 litre weighs more but it's a lot less expensive a conversion. | |
psycho sport |
posted on 21st Jan 04 at 21:38 |
just out of interest which one of these 2 would be quicker over 1/4 mile? |