the fact they look good probably.
i think audiobahn are pretty good.

what on earth give u the impression audiobahn are crap?

personaly i think audiobahn is crap,

its all looks and no go :/

alpine all the way if thats your budget

DATS WOT IM THINKIN, THE OTHER WAY ROUND IN DA BOX I THINK! IVE GOT A 10INCH TYPE R AT THE MO AND WELL IMPRESSED WIV IT! ME M8S GOT A 12INCH W3 AND THAT KICKS 2 BUT IT COST TWICE AS MUCH SOTHAT WOTI WUD EXPECT!:thumbs:

Had a 12inch type R and wasnt particularlly impressed with it. Saying that havent ever had an Audiobahn in ma boot to compare it to. I was much more impressed with JL W3 than the Type R.

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PS. the Audiobahn sub looks cooler than the Type R aswell. ;)

YEH, SRY I WOZ ON ABOUT HE SUBS! THE TYPE R12INCH OR THE AUDIOBAHN 1300W RMS FLAME EXURSION SUB! :)

It would help if you told us what you are after???

If its subs.................Go for Audiobahn
Components................Alpine R's (as OFcorsa said they are a tad too big for the standard doors)

your gonna need to make yourself some door pods for the type r as the magnets are too big.

r type

alpine type r or audiobahn(the flame 1) :thumbs: