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scrap
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Registered: 20th Jun 03
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   24th Oct 03 at 09:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

My car failed it's MOT.

It cost 35 for the MOT but i get a free re-test within 14 days.

It is booked in on 2moro morning to bring it up to scratch.
Its costing me 127 for the work being done.

It failed on emissions, i was told the exhaust has deterioated and needs a new backbox.

The other thing it failed on was the wheel allignment and there was some play in some parts that had something to do with this.

I was expecting to pay a bit more to get it thru its MOT. But this sound a reasonable price to fix the problems. MOT is needed so i can sell the car.

B4 i sell the car there are a couple of other things that need sorting.

The clutch biting point is really high now, does this mean it needs a new clutch ??

Also handbrake light comes on when i turn right, i've checked the brake fluid level and it looks OK, How can i solve this??

I don't know much about cars so your comments are welcome. I just wanna get the car into a reasonable condition so i can sell it, but at the same time i don't want to spend loads of money.
MatthewR
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24th Oct 03 at 09:03   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

How many miles u dun mate? 1st clutch? (clutch related)
scrap
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24th Oct 03 at 09:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

It's done 94K, dunno if its the first clutch.

I've just noticed it is really high now and it is making it a bit shitty to drive.
Marc
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24th Oct 03 at 09:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Your clutch might just want adjusting?
scrap
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24th Oct 03 at 09:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

How do u adjust it??
big eck
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24th Oct 03 at 09:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I'm having the exact same problems with the handbrake light but mine lights up nearly all the time, there is plenty of brake fluid and its really annoyin now, any ideas what causing this???
scrap
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24th Oct 03 at 09:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Big Eck- My handbrake light started just coming on now and again when taking a right turn but it is now on almost contiuously???

Any one got any ideas??

Big Eck : u2u me if u find out b4 me.
Andy
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24th Oct 03 at 09:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

A faulty backbox might cause an increase in noise level but it will have squat-all effect on emissions - did they say why it failed on emissions?
scrap
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24th Oct 03 at 09:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

No they didn't say why it failed emissions, they just said the new backbox would solve it because the old one had deterioated.
Andy
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24th Oct 03 at 09:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Then they're telling you porkies. A failure on emissions is to do with engine and/or cat performance. Once the exhaust gases have passed the cat into the rest of the exhaust, they'll remain unchanged
scrap
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24th Oct 03 at 09:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Well they're doing the re-test so if they pass it i ain't bothred.

A backbox sounds cheaper then engine repairs, maybe i'm wrong??
Kerry
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24th Oct 03 at 09:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by scrap
No they didn't say why it failed emissions, they just said the new backbox would solve it because the old one had deterioated.


sounds like they saw a good reason to flog u a back box
SetH
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24th Oct 03 at 09:52   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Yes, How does the condition of a silencer affect your emissions? It will be the CAT or the engine.
scrap
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24th Oct 03 at 09:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

What's cheaper, a new backbox i'm payin 26, a new cat ?? or some tinkering with the engine??

Cos all i'm bothred about is passing it really
Kerry
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24th Oct 03 at 09:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

that wont be the case when u pay for new back box and it stil fails emmisions

did they show u the print out kus for all u know they may of seen zorst and said it failed on emmissions so they could sell u one

stranger things have happened at sea!!
big eck
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24th Oct 03 at 09:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

It may also be the Lamda sensor m8.
scrap
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24th Oct 03 at 10:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I'll ring up this afternoon see what they say?

The fella i spoke to didn't do the test he said " it failed on emissions"

then I asked him what it needed he went into the garage and asked what it needed.
when he came back he said " it just needs a new backbox mate" "that'll solve the emissions problem.
scrap
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24th Oct 03 at 10:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Just got the results sheet in front of me now:

Here are some details:
On the customer copy it says:

1, Steering Mechanism/system = FAIL - Excess play in both offside and nearside track rod ends. 35 each plus VAT
May need wheel allignment 15 +VAT

2, Exhaust System =FAIL - exhaust system deteriorated. 27.50 inc VAT

3, Emissions Failure. + should be clearded up by new backbox.


HERE ARE THE DETAILS FROM THE EMISSIONS TEST, THIS MAY GIVE SOMEONE SOME INSIGHT INTO WHAT'S NEEDED.

Fast idle test: FAIL

Then there are three catergories, CO, HC then a funny looking symbol. well it says fail next to this symbol, should be between 0.970-1.020, it was 1.120. ( i don't know what this is)

Also second fast idle test = FAIL


COMMENTS / WHATS WRONG ??
scrap
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24th Oct 03 at 10:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Looking thru the emissions test,

It says engine capacity is 1400, my car is a 1.2 is this right ???
Tom
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24th Oct 03 at 10:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I need track rod endsa got my mot tomorrow hope it passes
Red_SXi
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24th Oct 03 at 11:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I think the handbrake light comes on round bends cos your pads are low, but i'm not too sure
big eck
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quote:
Originally posted by Red_Sxi
I think the handbrake light comes on round bends cos your pads are low, but i'm not too sure

But arnt the pads on the front
Daimo B
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Handbrake light comes on when pads are low as more fulid is needed in the calipers to make up for the lack of pad. This in turn makes the brake fulid bottle lower thus making the handbrake light come on.
Tom
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24th Oct 03 at 12:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Yesh I had this problem and bled my brakes and filled back up with fluid after changing the pads and disks, I feel this is different but I had the problem u talk of in the first instance
Rob H
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quote:
Originally posted by scrap
...then a funny looking symbol. well it says fail next to this symbol, should be between 0.970-1.020, it was 1.120. ( i don't know what this is)



That funny looking sybol will be Lambda. This is the amount of Oxygen found in the exhaust gasses. High reading could be down to needing a new lambda sensor. I have heared that putting a new backbox on will sort out emmisions.. but i suppose if your exhaust has a hole in it (failed for exhaust deteriation), then it may draw through some air, which will put your lambda value artificially high.

Also check your intake manifold gasket, as mine had gone, which put the reading higher than it should have been.

Rob

[Edited on 24-10-2003 by Rob H]

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