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Simon L
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16th Aug 03 at 15:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

no.
Simon L
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there are many differences.

no point in saying 'its all down to having 8v's less'
Cybermonkey
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so what advantages does having 8 more valves give apart from increased driveability and ability to rev easier?
Sooty
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ENGINES !!!

120bhp VTS / GTI

106bhp 1.6 SPORT

crappy ecotec shite.... very restrictive
Simon L
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16th Aug 03 at 15:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ask someone with 16v's

lmfao

[Edited on 16-08-2003 by Simon L]
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Sooty WTF is GTi?
Sooty
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106gti / vts ... same engine !
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oh right get ya. But un-restricted the 16XE would be pulling 150bhp no problem. Kind of overshadows the VTS/GTi engine.
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mods on a 16XE to 150? we're talking a few mods there...

few mods on a 106gti engine and you can have 170hp before needing to get into TD territory... gimme 1 year
Simon L
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in a world of 'ifs' and 'buts' aye.

lmfao
Cybermonkey
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When Vauxhall were testing the C/X16XE engine, they got a reliable 155bhp from it. They couldnt have it overshadowing the C20XE so they strangled the life out of it. Thats why 200+bhp is so easily attainable and safe when fitting TB's etc.
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quote:
Originally posted by Cybermonkey24
When Vauxhall were testing the C/X16XE engine, they got a reliable 155bhp from it. They couldnt have it overshadowing the C20XE so they strangled the life out of it. Thats why 200+bhp is so easily attainable and safe when fitting TB's etc.


correct... a VTS is still a class ahead of the sport though... mmm handling
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i must admit, driving my mums VTR is bliss. No fighting for grip and bodyroll. Takes corners beautifully.
Simon L
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yesh, i like the ability to go around corners.
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I fitted Pirelli P6000's on tuesday and now i am much more confident. I have yet to try them out in the wet. I rate them so far though!
Simon L
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your mum handles the cock well also.
Sooty
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a VTS would polish off a punto turbo and a 2 litre corsa round a track
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yesh. Hence my existence.
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quote:
Originally posted by Sooty
a VTS would polish off a punto turbo and a 2 litre corsa round a track


I have never seen a VTS, Punto or Corsa 2.0 round a track. I cannot comment.
Simon L
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are you barry manilows love child?
Sooty
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Punto Turbo's (or all punto's for this matter) do not handle... I am scared in them

2 litre corsa's not as bad... but im sure the weight on the 20xe in the front will have some side effects... 1.6 engine is perfect for an all round car
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quote:
Originally posted by Simon L
are you barry manilows love child?


I am older than Barry.
Sooty
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Dave I did enjoy your pics the other day
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quote:
Originally posted by Sooty
Punto Turbo's (or all punto's for this matter) do not handle... I am scared in them

2 litre corsa's not as bad... but im sure the weight on the 20xe in the front will have some side effects... 1.6 engine is perfect for an all round car


Hence why it will be a bad idea for the Corsa C GSi to be fitted with the 2.0T rather than an all new 1.6T
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quote:
Originally posted by Sooty
Dave I did enjoy your pics the other day


Which pics?

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