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Phil321

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13th Aug 03 at 15:54

I preferred the refinement of the S, expecially for everyday use. The Type R does feel a lot more raw. I have never driven a Leon Cupra R either. I have driven an Ibiza though and was not as impressed as I had hoped. It was impressive, but all the rave reviews made me think it would blow me away.

Chris@Speedfreex

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13th Aug 03 at 15:56

be interesting to c wot the focus cosworth shall be like, if they ever get the problems sorted

Phil321

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13th Aug 03 at 15:58

Hopefully more impressive than the Focus RS

XLR8

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13th Aug 03 at 15:58

Golf R32 gets my vote as an all round hot hatch

Might be heavy, but they really do handle well considering.

Next to that is that 250bhp alfa hatchback, cant rememebr the name

elfunkyo

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13th Aug 03 at 15:58

Thought they had completely scrapped the Focus Cosworth project?

elfunkyo

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13th Aug 03 at 15:59

quote:
Originally posted by XLR8
Golf R32 gets my vote as an all round hot hatch Might be heavy, but they really do handle well considering.

Next to that is that 250bhp alfa hatchback, cant rememebr the name

It also cost nearly £10K more than any of the cars we have discussed

sxi boy

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13th Aug 03 at 16:00

quote:
Originally posted by XLR8
Golf R32 gets my vote as an all round hot hatch Might be heavy, but they really do handle well considering.

Next to that is that 250bhp alfa hatchback, cant rememebr the name

the golf R32 is more a luxury car than a hot hatch, too big and comfy to be a true hot hatch

cars like the CTR are raw, not big, luxurious or comfortable, the engine doesn't like cruising along at low revs, this is a hot hatch

Chris@Speedfreex

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13th Aug 03 at 16:00

not scrapped it, but i know they were asving probs wiv the exhaust system and manifold

Phil321

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13th Aug 03 at 16:00

quote:
Originally posted by XLR8
Golf R32 gets my vote as an all round hot hatch Might be heavy, but they really do handle well considering.

Next to that is that 250bhp alfa hatchback, cant rememebr the name

The 147GTA and the R32 both cost considerably more than the cars discussed here though. I think the R32 is about an extra 10k!

Not sure about the Focus Cosworth. Everybody seems to have a different story!

Phil321

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13th Aug 03 at 16:01

Wow, 4 posts the same in 1 minute!

vibrio

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13th Aug 03 at 16:03

quote:
Originally posted by Phil321
Please discuss the above quote.

EMA

Phil321

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13th Aug 03 at 16:04

Nice to see there are still some members who can't have a discussion on cars.

Chris@Speedfreex

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13th Aug 03 at 16:05

did last 3 pages phil m8 shud be proud

Ojc

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13th Aug 03 at 16:05

I FCUKING HATE TYPE-R's.

DAYZEE

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13th Aug 03 at 16:05

quote:
Originally posted by Phil321
Hopefully more impressive than the Focus RS

Not one car mentioned in this entire thread will catch a focus RS round a track. How is that not impressive?
Just because it didn't have 400bhp its not a great car?

XLR8

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13th Aug 03 at 16:07

So what if its an extra 10k or so :S

the mini is quite a bit more than a ctr too!

The golf is still a hatchback, and its quite hot

as for luxury car - yea, but its still quick!

Chris@Speedfreex

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13th Aug 03 at 16:10

out of al the aboce id ave the focus rs

sxi boy

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13th Aug 03 at 16:10

quote:
Originally posted by XLR8
So what if its an extra 10k or so :S

the mini is quite a bit more than a ctr too!

The golf is still a hatchback, and its quite hot as for luxury car - yea, but its still quick!

but by definition its not a hot hatch

Phil321

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13th Aug 03 at 16:13

quote:
Originally posted by DAYZEE

quote:
Originally posted by Phil321
Hopefully more impressive than the Focus RS

Not one car mentioned in this entire thread will catch a focus RS round a track. How is that not impressive?
Just because it didn't have 400bhp its not a great car?

I never said they would. I am just saying it was not the car it should have been.

DAYZEE

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13th Aug 03 at 16:19

Well what should it have been?? The RS cars were never as powerful as the cosworths, all they are doing is following the same trend.

Paul H

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13th Aug 03 at 16:48

i used to have a 1969 old mark 1 mini cooper s it was well quick for an old car.don't think much to the new one though had a quick go in one at the bmw garage..

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13th Aug 03 at 16:51

quote:
Originally posted by Phil321
Please discuss the above quote.

there gash and there slow

end of

Andy Stocker

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13th Aug 03 at 16:57

I don't like the new mini's. The only thing 'mini' about the new mini's is that they look like mini 4x4 Landrovers with the big plastic stick on arches etc. My opinion anyway.

Wolfy

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13th Aug 03 at 18:11

i aint to keen on bmw stuff or the sad tossers that think they own the road driving em, but i like the mini cooper s

it maybe big and not really a mini, but fair play to em for throwing a supercharger in em!

mattyboy199

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13th Aug 03 at 21:53

Its completely overated nothing special really.

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