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BabyBlade
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8th Jul 03 at 10:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

My brakes went on my car last night and couldnt stop. The pedal is really soft and reaches the end of its stroke. At the end of the stroke the brakes come on a little bit but not much. The brake fluid level was slightly under, i have now filled this up, and pumped the pedal but the brake pedal still has no pressure. Can anyone help????
3CorsaMeal
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8th Jul 03 at 10:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

check ur lines, and the brake cylinders, look for it leaking somewhere, r they noisy at all?
miles
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8th Jul 03 at 10:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

poss leaking, although you probably would have lost more fluid.

They all need bleeding no doubt.

If in doubt take it to a garage, its not something you want to risk.
Corsa^Dan
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8th Jul 03 at 10:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

new padS?
BabyBlade
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8th Jul 03 at 10:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Will check the level when i get home however i dont think it was going down. Will bleed them anyways, wud air have been able to get in if the level was slightly under?? What pipes should i check just the ones to the front?
BabyBlade
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8th Jul 03 at 10:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

also no the brakes are not noisy
Kris TD
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8th Jul 03 at 10:37   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

rear cylinder could have popped, brake line split, measter cylinder or sevo fucked
OFcorsa
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8th Jul 03 at 11:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Check the calipers i head from a dealer a known problem with vauxhalls was the caliper as it works like a swing arm one side forces the other on to the disc, if one side is stiff then there will be no forcing the other side onto the disc.
BabyBlade
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8th Jul 03 at 11:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

thanks Kris
BabyBlade
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quote:
Originally posted by OFcorsa
Check the calipers i head from a dealer a known problem with vauxhalls was the caliper as it works like a swing arm one side forces the other on to the disc, if one side is stiff then there will be no forcing the other side onto the disc.

but its a bit of a coincidence for both not to work int it?
Kris TD
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8th Jul 03 at 11:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

when one of my rear cylinders went to pedall went all the way too the floor they felt really spongy and they were rubbish. look round your rear wheels too see if any brake fluid has come out, my drum and wheel were covered in it.
OFcorsa
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8th Jul 03 at 11:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Well if both calipers came off the same production line i.e. a fualty batch then no not really.
BabyBlade
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8th Jul 03 at 11:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

suppose, thanks Oc
OFcorsa
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8th Jul 03 at 11:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

But like i havent mentioned but should of it is only a suggestion.
Daimo B
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8th Jul 03 at 11:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

With brakes there is only so many things it could be.

Check from the master cyclinder down the pipes to the calipers. If there is not leaks at the front, follow it along to the back. That rules out the pipework.

If its not that, then u've only got the calipers etc to worry about and u can look at them. Strip em down, clean em up etc.
Kris TD
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8th Jul 03 at 11:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by OFcorsa
Well if both calipers came off the same production line i.e. a fualty batch then no not really.


but they wont have done, they are different.

highly unlikely they would both go at exactly the same time even if they were both faulty.
leeshez
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8th Jul 03 at 12:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

If the pedal is close to the floor to stop the car it could be your servo this happened to my mums escort. Lee
BabyBlade
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Hada quick look at lunch and from a breif inspection it lookslike there is oil on the back of my drum and on the alloy, it is very minimaland only on the one side tho, i will look closer when i get home
TOMAS
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8th Jul 03 at 12:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Yeah servo agreed... I though that brakes ran a dual setup, so if fronts fail backs work and vice versa. It must be the master cylinder to have virtually no brakes...?
BabyBlade
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8th Jul 03 at 13:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

dont know all i know is the handbrake works but the pedal dont not very handy really!!
miles
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they are split diagonally.
BabyBlade
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what does that mean? when the front right goes the back left also goes??
Kris TD
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quote:
Originally posted by Sethion33
Hada quick look at lunch and from a breif inspection it lookslike there is oil on the back of my drum and on the alloy, it is very minimaland only on the one side tho, i will look closer when i get home


rear cylinder has popped, u need to replace the cylinder one the infected side and shoes on both sides.
m4tt_c
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8th Jul 03 at 15:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

so your driving it with no brakes?
BabyBlade
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8th Jul 03 at 15:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

no i had to drive it home from town yesterday and got a lift to work today
Its not even worth thinking about driving it anywhere! thats why i aint gonna take it to a garage, will do it meself

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