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RichR
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29th Jan 21 at 21:50   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

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Originally posted by DaveyLC

Because we have a trade deal there are currently no tariffs or duties unless its something like alcohol.


Unless products are Ex. EU/UK origin then the duties can be anything from 3% up to horrendous amounts.

Bearing in mind we’re used to international export and send goods globally every day, the worst thing we’re finding currently is the disparity of rules between different EU member states. Spain is an utter shambles; Ireland interpreting rules differently; Germany was painful but okay currently.we’ve got around £20k of orders sat in Spanish customs going nowhere. Irish customs trying to levy 68% ‘Anti-dumping’ tax on Chinese origin products.

I’m terms of fees to customers, UPS are leveraging 2.5% with a min. Of €12.77 brokerage fees; TNT/FedEx at 5% (min. Fee €20). Various freight agents interpreting requirements differently.

Overall a shambles currently; we have a frictionless set-up in progress which involves registering for VAT in NL as above and becoming the importer of record but overall the situation has been a joke. 2020 should have been a negation period followed by a transition/implementation period for several weeks/months from the date that the agreements were made; not agree on Christmas Eve, implement on NYE and in effect give companies no time to set up.

Issues were also compounded by the border closures pre-Christmas, we had several hundred orders sat around both at ports and the warehouse; those which went out ended up coming back and we then faced the issue of having ridiculous amounts of orders on the Pre-Brexit terms to reorganise for post-Brexit.
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quote:
Originally posted by DaveyLC

Because we have a trade deal there are currently no tariffs or duties unless its something like alcohol.


Unless products are Ex. EU/UK origin then the duties can be anything from 3% up to horrendous amounts.

Bearing in mind we’re used to international export and send goods globally every day, the worst thing we’re finding currently is the disparity of rules between different EU member states. Spain is an utter shambles; Ireland interpreting rules differently; Germany was painful but okay currently.we’ve got around £20k of orders sat in Spanish customs going nowhere. Irish customs trying to levy 68% ‘Anti-dumping’ tax on Chinese origin products.

I’m terms of fees to customers, UPS are leveraging 2.5% with a min. Of €12.77 brokerage fees; TNT/FedEx at 5% (min. Fee €20). Various freight agents interpreting requirements differently.

Overall a shambles currently; we have a frictionless set-up in progress which involves registering for VAT in NL as above and becoming the importer of record but overall the situation has been a joke. 2020 should have been a negation period followed by a transition/implementation period for several weeks/months from the date that the agreements were made; not agree on Christmas Eve, implement on NYE and in effect give companies no time to set up.

Issues were also compounded by the border closures pre-Christmas, we had several hundred orders sat around both at ports and the warehouse; those which went out ended up coming back and we then faced the issue of having ridiculous amounts of orders on the Pre-Brexit terms to reorganise for post-Brexit.


Its a sh**show


And to make matters worse politicians like John Redwood are now spouting tripe like "Grow your own"

Where's that slimy Farage for his fisherman friends now?
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Boris’ ‘deal’ is the gift that keeps on giving. Granted this was our own misinterpretation but it’s not only caught us out. So the free trade agreement is a one way affair; goods manufactured in the UK can flow into the EU without any tariff/import duty, and goods manufactured in the EU can come over to the UK tariff free BUT (and this seems ridiculous), if EU origin product move from the UK to the EU, then they become tariffable as would UK products moving back from the EU. This is a total fuck up; it just doesn’t make sense at all so a lot of materials that we supply, we import (tariff free from Italy, France and Germany) but if we then ship them back to customers in the EU, the customer gets stung with import Duty (on top of the Import VAT and Brokerage/Customs fees).

We’re also getting reports more frequently of customers getting hit with obscure charges from the couriers such as complex customs entry fees; hazardous handling surcharges, etc., which changes from country to country and even with orders going into the same country.

This ‘deal’ will end up being renegotiated in the future.
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Originally posted by RichR

This ‘deal’ will end up being renegotiated in the future.


And that's a worry as its now clear all of the balls are in the EUs court, including the Le Touquet agreement which is the only reason there aren't multiple dinghies of illegal migrants pitching up in Kent daily.

Our sister company has started moving everything to the Netherlands declared as <£20 to avoid complex declarations - basically gambling the companies bottom line on it because clearly if stuff is declared at less than £20 you can't insure it for more.

I doubt this government could negotiate a deal on broadband..

[Edited on 08-02-2021 by DaveyLC]

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