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Ellis
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1st Oct 15 at 18:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Sounds like just the very lens for me then. Not quite getting the depth of field I would like with the kit lens I'm using.
andy1868
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If you're after shallow depth of field but concerned about being too restrictive i'd consider the 35mm f2 too. Yongnuo have just released a blatant copy of it too for about Ł70.

I always found the 35mm a more useful length on aps-c but you do sacrifice a little depth of field as a result. That said I did have the 50mm too, which was better for portraits etc so it's swings and roundabouts! I don't know if you're on talk photography but theres a couple of the 50mm lenses for sale second hand for Ł45.

If you're interested Yongnuo also make a copy of the 50mm but that lens is so cheap anyway I would probably get a Canon second hand!
nathy_87
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8th Oct 15 at 12:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i've been told to get this so will be getting it at the end of the month. Probably be better for what I need it for as I was asking about shooting in low light.
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quote:
Originally posted by nathy_87
i've been told to get this
What complete tool told you that?


nathy_87
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quote:
Originally posted by Balling
quote:
Originally posted by nathy_87
i've been told to get this
What complete tool told you that?


ffs aint sure what happened there but that's totally the wrong one.

I meant this one. Which is the one I think you told me to get too.
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8th Oct 15 at 16:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I really don't know what happened there. when I clicked on the link it sent me to a super duper lens worth Ł300 now it's sent me back to the one I originally linked.
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A nifty 50. I'd get your lighting and pictures better first. Then once you've got that spend money on lenses.
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This was a kit lens done by me.

nathy_87
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That's crystal clear, however it's in daylight.

Took couple of photos in low light forget what the settings are off the top of my head (will update when i find out).





With the second photo you can see the orange light from the camera, apart from photoshop could that be stopped from happening again?
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A standard camera flash won't help. Even if you had light those pictures aren't great

No tripod I assume either?

[Edited on 09-10-2015 by VrsTurbo]
Ellis
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quote:
Originally posted by VrsTurbo
This was a kit lens done by me.



Was this a panning shot with a kit lens?

Care to disclose what settings have worked best for you?
andy1868
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Nathy, if you can get the settings you had we can help you out with that one

Ellis, panning relies a lot on technique as well as settings. The way to do it is a slow shutter speed to get the movement of the background while keeping the subject sharp so it's best to find a compromise between the 2 or get your technique to an amazing level Because of the longer shutter speeds needed in daylight you tend to need a smaller aperture which is good if you're on a kit lens as they tend to get sharper at this point. Also keep the ISO down to help. The other good news is that for motorsport a "slow" shutter speed doesn't necessarily need to be that slow as the vehicles are moving quickly. One thing to bear in mind too is the quicker the car is going, the faster shutter speed you can afford. If you're sat on the inside of a corner for example, you're going to need a slower speed than on a straight to get the feeling of movement in the photo.

ABR_5882 by andyroberts1868, on Flickr

That was taken at 1/125 @ f9 for example. I haven't caught the car straight on though which has caused the front to be a little blurry, but the back is pretty sharp.

You can drop the shutter speed down if your technique is good, i always found a significant drop in the keeper rate if i took it below 1/125 but that's just me. You tend to get away with a slower speed if you shoot dead on straight with the car, this for example was 1/40

Flying Beemer2 by andyroberts1868, on Flickr


On the technique side, you need to track the car as it comes close and follow it as it goes past, clicking the shutter as it comes closest and follow tracking it as it goes. I find keeping feet firmly in one place and moving the upper of your body to follow the car to work best. Keep your elbows into your body for support and you're away.

This is something i knocked up really quick to show you. The arrows are probably a little far out there but you'll see what i mean when you try it.



[Edited on 09-10-2015 by andy1868]
Ellis
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Top tips thanks. Probably best to have a proper go at it and experiment with the settings.
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It's easier than it looks to be honest. I've only ever done it on dull days so that's helped subdue the light to help with shutter speeds etc. If it's bright you may need to close the aperture up even further.
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quote:
Originally posted by Ellis
quote:
Originally posted by VrsTurbo
This was a kit lens done by me.



Was this a panning shot with a kit lens?

Care to disclose what settings have worked best for you?


No idea on that one was over 2 years ago
SteveW
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21st Oct 15 at 21:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Andy1868 is spot on there, perfect images.

Its a lot of practice practice practice.. and patience

These are two of my better panning shots

DSC_0197 by steve ward, on Flickr

DSC_0203 by steve ward, on Flickr
nathy_87
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19th Nov 15 at 17:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Few weeks ago (Halloween in fact) I took this shot of the Nottingham War Memorial. No additional lighting.

IMG_0001_zpslp05arfs by Nathan Parker, on Flickr

Aperture F/4.0
ISO 800
Exp time: 1/60
Flash was on and fired.

[Edited on 19-11-2015 by nathy_87]
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19th Nov 15 at 17:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

should have gone F22 and shutter speed adjusted - also spot metering

Would obviously need a tripod.

[Edited on 19-11-2015 by whitter45]
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DSC_8919 by Paul Whitt82, on Flickr

8 seconds on shutter
nathy_87
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Oh forgot to say did have tripod.

These are another couple same night all with tripod not as good imo really need to look at this ISO and shutter speed corrected:

IMG_0013_zpskzztmcov by Nathan Parker, on Flickr

f/4.0
Exp Time 1/8
ISO 6400

IMG_0030_zpsbcfgpcxh by Nathan Parker, on Flickr

f/4.5
Exp Time: 1/13
ISO 6400


whitter45
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if your using a tripod ISO should be 100
nathy_87
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quote:
Originally posted by whitter45
if your using a tripod ISO should be 100



Thanks whitter, will try get out sometime and use that ISO setting.

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