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Poll: Are you voting? If so, who for?
Conservative 49 (37.98%)
Labour 6 (4.65%)
Lib dems 8 (6.2%)
UKIP 25 (19.38%)
Green 2 (1.55%)
SNP 9 (6.98%)
Other(state) 2 (1.55%)
Not voting, we're shagged whoever wins. 28 (21.71%)


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Ian
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13th May 15 at 11:20   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Peter Prendiville
Andrew Palmer
Peter Townshend
Malcolm Ford
Peter McLaughlin
Paul Diggett
James Warmer
Lord Tonypandy

In fact I'm bored of pasting them now, go here - http://labour25.com/

That's assuming you want a reasonable debate to deteriorate in to finding as many names of pedos from each side as you can.


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Shots fired.
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I fear this debate is lacking in smoking gun proof of either side being right in the form of an amateur YouTube video
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quote:
Originally posted by kz
Conservative voters: Peter Stringfellow, Jim Davidson, Vinnie Jones, John McCririck, Antony Worrall Thompson, Simon Cowell, Paul Daniels, Karen Brady & Jimmy Saville

Labour voters: Bill Bailey, David Tennant, Stephen Hawking, Eddie Izzard, JK Rowling, Ricky Gervais, Alan Davies, Daniel Radcliffe, Frank Skinner, Tony Robinson, Russell Brand & Jo Brand

I know what side I'd rather to be associated with


You missed out Alan Sugar. Oh wait, no you didn't.


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I too was more than a little surprised to find out that Alan Sugar wasn't a tory.
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Regarding the proposed counter-extremism bill, the BBC has quoted David Cameron as saying:

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone',”

What do people on here think of this?
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wtf is that supposed to mean
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Isn't that a trimmed quote regarding a new law on extremism?
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In the 90s being extreme was cool. Not anymore
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quote:
Originally posted by MoesTavern
Regarding the proposed counter-extremism bill, the BBC has quoted David Cameron as saying:

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone',”

What do people on here think of this?


I think it means a load of your mates will probably be shipped out
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quote:
Originally posted by MoesTavern
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone',”


I don't entirely disagree with this, because counter-terrorism is clearly hindered by the restriction on pro-active investigation. That goes without saying, you'd find more out if you looked in more places, more often and with less cause. Whether you want to protect your civil liberty is another matter.

However this next bit -

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“It's often meant we have stood neutral between different values. And that's helped foster a narrative of extremism and grievance.”


I completely disagree with. Standing neutral doesn't foster anything. Bombing the fuck out of things and blaming all Muslims for all evil on the other hand, well that's going to piss a few of them off.

I do think the government are in a difficult position because they'll be scrutinised for failing or scrutinised for trying, and ultimately what is the solution? By its very nature you need to be proactive in your approach, the information is not going to fall to you unless you look. But that's a whole can of worms in itself.

I do think they're prepping the wider population for what is to come and to a certain extent I can see the wider population going for it. I think the general mood is that people would accept less privacy if the upside is a lower likelihood of being killed in a terrorist attack.

Although it does all miss the point. Ultimately if you don't want targetting by terrorists, don't bomb their town.


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Good choice for new equality minister

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/new-equality-minister-caroline-dinenage-5685012
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Good choice for new disabilities minister

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/05/13/justin-tomlinson-disabled-child-benefits-cancer-patients-bedroom-tax_n_7272956.html
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quote:
Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal
In the 90s being extreme was cool. Not anymore


Extreme were an awesome band
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quote:
Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal
In the 90s being extreme was cool. Not anymore


'Extreme to the max' in fact.
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quote:
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Good choice for new equality minister

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/new-equality-minister-caroline-dinenage-5685012


A nice labour paper then
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Well, like I said before, it doesn't matter the facts are the facts!
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Emergency budget announced while Labour are in a mess and unable to give a reply.

Increasing the inheritance allowance so their Roch friends don't get punished, while cutting benefits. Thank God I'm in work
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Doesn't affect me as I work for a living and don't sponge off the state like a pikey lazy inbred fat ogre cunt.
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What about my brother who can't work due to a spinal compression fracture and bipolar disorder?

Anyway, I'll just leave this here

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Nice way to ruin business merely down to bitterness, fairplay intelligent person
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quote:
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What about my brother who can't work due to a spinal compression fracture and bipolar disorder?

Anyway, I'll just leave this here




What has changed for your brother since the election
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Sounds about right, a non-tory having to sell plants, seems its all the people with non-professional jobs that get annoyed about this.

Is he/she upset because they lost some benefits or something?
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quote:
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What about my brother who can't work due to a spinal compression fracture and bipolar disorder?


First one, fair enough.

Second one, get to fuck bipolar is another term for a person who has tantrums when they don't get their own way. Usually put in the same bracket as people who say they have dyslexia or fibromyalgea (sp).
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Nic Barnes is bipolar and you don't see him claiming benefits for it.

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