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MoesTavern

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16th Jan 15 at 18:57

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Originally posted by Balling

quote:
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No but I'd expect said person to understand the possible consequences of him calling me a wanker
What possible consequences are those?

Who knows how anyone may react to anything?

Ben G

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16th Jan 15 at 19:19

Anti terror raids happening all over Western Europe. Sky News can't seem to keep up with them all.

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16th Jan 15 at 19:35

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Originally posted by andy1868
Fighting for a religion is no different to fighting for a country.

With the minor exception that countries exist.

Ben G

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16th Jan 15 at 19:47

So does Religion.

Dom

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16th Jan 15 at 20:12

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Originally posted by MoesTavern
Moderate censorship is possible with a sensible government, surely?

Isn't that a bit of a oxymoron? I mean, "a sensible government"?!

And unfortunately it is and would be a slippery slope once the law is written in that the government is able to censor the output of media, even if marginal as you're suggesting, as it wouldn't take much for what ever government is in power to adjust it to gain more control.

andy1868

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16th Jan 15 at 20:19

But countries only exist in the same way as religion does. Why is fighting for one more valid than the other?

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16th Jan 15 at 20:34

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Originally posted by Ben G
So does Religion.

Only in peoples heads

Steve

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16th Jan 15 at 20:35

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But countries only exist in the same way as religion does. Why is fighting for one more valid than the other?

Land is a real life object with actual value and resources.

Religion is a made up entity.

[Edited on 16-01-2015 by Steve]

andy1868

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16th Jan 15 at 20:39

Yes land is a real life entity, it's the idea of a country that's made up. I think you're missing my point Steven

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16th Jan 15 at 20:45

Even if you ignore the principle of countries and boundaries, humans have to live somewhere, that means there will always be areas occupied by other humans where they have something and resources you need that you dont have.

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16th Jan 15 at 21:00

quote:
Originally posted by MoesTavern

quote:
Originally posted by Balling

quote:
Originally posted by MoesTavern
No but I'd expect said person to understand the possible consequences of him calling me a wanker
What possible consequences are those?
Who knows how anyone may react to anything?

Didn't you just say you'd expect other people to know? I'm certain that's what it says right there.

I can't tell if you're intentionally vague or just don't have a very strong opinion.

MoesTavern

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16th Jan 15 at 21:03

quote:
Originally posted by Balling

quote:
Originally posted by MoesTavern

quote:
Originally posted by Balling

quote:
Originally posted by MoesTavern
No but I'd expect said person to understand the possible consequences of him calling me a wanker
What possible consequences are those?
Who knows how anyone may react to anything?
Didn't you just say you'd expect other people to know? I'm certain that's what it says right there.

I can't tell if you're intentionally vague or just don't have a very strong opinion.

Sorry? you've lost me. I don't know what point you're trying to make.

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16th Jan 15 at 21:08

quote:
Originally posted by Balling

quote:
Originally posted by MoesTavern
No but I'd expect said person to understand the possible consequences of him calling me a wanker
What possible consequences are those?

The consequences. The ones you expect other people to understand. What are they?

[Edited on 16-01-2015 by Balling]

andy1868

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16th Jan 15 at 21:12

But if there truly was no boundary, what would stop you from going and taking your own resources from the same pool as the other group?

I need to stop, this is making me look like a hippie douche

Do you ever get the feeling a thread has gone off topic?

[Edited on 16-01-2015 by andy1868]

Ben G

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16th Jan 15 at 21:35

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quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
So does Religion.

Only in peoples heads

Religion exists. It's the made up people in the sky who don't.

Ben G

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16th Jan 15 at 21:37

quote:
Originally posted by andy1868
But if there truly was no boundary, what would stop you from going and taking your own resources from the same pool as the other group?

I need to stop, this is making me look like a hippie douche

Do you ever get the feeling a thread has gone off topic?

[Edited on 16-01-2015 by andy1868]

Just a bit

it'll soon come back on topic when the Islamists start wanking about Mohammed and Allah again and decide to kill some more innocent people.

MoesTavern

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17th Jan 15 at 01:22

quote:
Originally posted by Balling

quote:
Originally posted by Balling

quote:
Originally posted by MoesTavern
No but I'd expect said person to understand the possible consequences of him calling me a wanker
What possible consequences are those?
The consequences. The ones you expect other people to understand. What are they?

[Edited on 16-01-2015 by Balling]

Of calling me a wanker? That I would likely take offense.

Gary

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17th Jan 15 at 09:47

And? It's not the end of the world. Been offended won't kill you ffs.

Ben G

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17th Jan 15 at 10:02

If you get offended by someone calling you a wanker, you need to seriously MTFU.

Dom

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17th Jan 15 at 10:02

quote:
Originally posted by MoesTavern
That I would likely take offence.

As Stephen Fry said....

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"It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so fucking what."

And being offended certainly doesn't give anyone the right to kill

quote:
Originally posted by Gary
Been offended won't kill you ffs.

Being Gary, it's fucking Being

[Edited on 17-01-2015 by Dom]

Gary

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17th Jan 15 at 10:07

I knew that. Just woke up

MoesTavern

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17th Jan 15 at 18:48

The point being, lads is what someone may decide to do if they are offended, and how seriously they make take said offence.

I'm not arguing about the seriousness of being called a wanker for Christ's sake.

[Edited on 17-01-2015 by MoesTavern]

Steve

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17th Jan 15 at 19:41

Going to kill you for using the Lords name in vain

Marc

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17th Jan 15 at 19:42

Voldemort?

MoesTavern

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17th Jan 15 at 20:33

quote:
Originally posted by Dom

As Stephen Fry said....

quote:

"It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so fucking what."

What if the offence is considered so great that someone is prepared to commit violence, or even murder over it. is it still "Well, so fucking what" then?

And being offended certainly doesn't give anyone the right to kill

I didn't say it did.

[Edited on 17-01-2015 by MoesTavern]

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