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The best way to diffuse the whole argument is to inform the person who is so anti gay that 99% of the time, homophobes are in the closet and in denial about their own sexual insecurities.
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I'm not suggesting they don't occur naturally, but I personally think it is a flaw in genetics. It's counter productive to how nature thrives and evolves.
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Society has accepted folk are gay now so stop screaming about it and get on with your life.
What "society"? Do you honestly think homosexuals are not to this day subject of hate, abuse and even attacks based on their sexual preference?

Remember, Tim Cook is a celebrity all over the world. Certain areas of the world look very, very different to ours.
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Gayness would never become an evolutionary result, as it would prevent evolution.
Yeah, I don't think you understand how evolution works.
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Surely a key part of evolution, is reproduction? Gayness will always be a minority thing, other wise that will be the end of humanity, not very good evolution
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I'm not suggesting they don't occur naturally, but I personally think it is a flaw in genetics. It's counter productive to how nature thrives and evolves.
And you're welcome to think so, but what does it have to do with anything?
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Society has accepted folk are gay now so stop screaming about it and get on with your life.
What "society"? Do you honestly think homosexuals are not to this day subject of hate, abuse and even attacks based on their sexual preference?


Most of the westernised world has come to accept that it happens I'd say.
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Actually, evolution would fix the problem, you'd end up with hermaphrodites or women who had the physical appearance of men, or something different entirely.
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It has to do with supporting my argument that its a flaw with nature. But like I said, its just a debate, im not using it to chastise gay people, they can do what they like
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Surely a key part of evolution, is reproduction? Gayness will always be a minority thing, other wise that will be the end of humanity, not very good evolution
Again, you're not understanding the subject you're talking about and again, it's completely besides the point.

Why argue this in the first place? Let's say you're right, what does it matter?
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Gayness would never become an evolutionary result, as it would prevent evolution.
Yeah, I don't think you understand how evolution works.
exactly this.. as if species require a male and female to reproduce (not sarcasm)
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im not using it to chastise gay people
Of course you are, whether you realise it or not.

For whatever reason you felt the need to express that homosexuals are damaged individuals, even though it had nothing to do with the question posted.

You intentionally tried to put homosexuals below yourself, which is exactly the fucking problem. Why do you need to prove to the world that something is wrong with these people?
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Most of the westernised world has come to accept that it happens I'd say.
Unfortunately I don't think that's true. Many states in the US still don't allow same-sex marriage, for instance.

It's also not just a matter of legality, but of public attitude.
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Evolution in its rawest state (reproduction been no1) went a long time ago. 'gay' may we) be a product of evolution to stop over population. Infact it'd be interesting to see if there is any relationship between how heavily populated a country is and how many homosexuals residents it has.
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http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/apples-ceo-tim-cook-came-out-and-its-a-big-deal-456
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maybe thats why they 'come out', so we can keep figures acuratre
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http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/apples-ceo-tim-cook-came-out-and-its-a-big-deal-456
Last paragraph is pretty spot on for this thread.

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And agreed if it's an acceptable part of society now, no need for people to announce it


Exactly this.

I have no problem with people choosing their own sexuality.

There is just absolutely no need to tell the world about it.

As for the publicity side of it, skynews seemed to agree when talking about gay CEO's last night. So there you go.
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Evolution in its rawest state (reproduction been no1) went a long time ago. 'gay' may we) be a product of evolution to stop over population. Infact it'd be interesting to see if there is any relationship between how heavily populated a country is and how many homosexuals residents it has.


Ok not sure homosexuality is born from overpopulation....
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And agreed if it's an acceptable part of society now, no need for people to announce it


Exactly this.

I have no problem with people choosing their own sexuality.

There is just absolutely no need to tell the world about it.

As for the publicity side of it, skynews seemed to agree when talking about gay CEO's last night. So there you go.


You say that but imagine if a footballer came out, think about how much that would change the sport long term.
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A rugby player did. Did it make any difference? I doubt it. No one cares if you're gay. You can be what you want.

It isn't news.
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Actually it did, he was the first but not the last.

Whether you care or not, someone famous coming out is helpful for people who are struggling with it themselves.
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And agreed if it's an acceptable part of society now, no need for people to announce it


Exactly this.


Unfortunately the opinion that homosexuality is 'accepted' within society is with the minority rather than the majority (just look at this thread).

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From this thread, I expect Robin to come out shortly.
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From this thread, I expect Robin to come out shortly.


According to CS legend, I don't need to.

Baza will though I think.

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