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Originally posted by Ian W
Japan might get the worlds first superhero


SUSHI MANNNN!!!!!
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http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-23764382

For the record, I don't believe what they say.
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It's been spewing out to the sea for ages, they've been thinking up loads of schemes to stop it.
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Severity level now been raised from 1 to 3, classed as most severe post tsunami incident to date from Fukushima.
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Scale goes up to 7 so in context, that 3 isn't all that alarming.
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I don't imagine it would increase any more, but as the scale is logarithmic, it's a strong indication to the severity.

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The scale is intended to be logarithmic, similar to the moment magnitude scale that is used to describe the comparative magnitude of earthquakes. Each increasing level represents an accident approximately ten times more severe than the previous level.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-23779561

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But some nuclear experts are concerned that the problem is a good deal worse than either Tepco or the Japanese government are willing to admit.


Bet the west coast of america isn't too happy

[Edited on 22-08-2013 by willay]
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/08/21/omg_new_crisis_disaster_at_fukushima_oh_wait_its_nothing_again/

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What has happened is that one of the holding tanks, containing water that had only been through one stage of purification, has sprung a leak and about 300,000 litres of water has got out. Almost all of this was contained by a backup dam which had been built around the tanks when they were set up (this is the nuclear industry, there is always a backup). However, "two shallow puddles" of the water got out of the dam via a rainwater drain valve which has since been sealed off.

The water is quite radioactive, and dose rates measured next to the puddles were 100 milliSieverts per hour.
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However what Reuters haven't picked up on is that the high 100 milliSievert reading is for beta radiation only. The reading for gamma rays is only 1.5 milliSieverts per hour.

As we no doubt all recall from school, beta radiation is not very penetrating: it can't get through human skin and it only travels a few feet through air. So you'd have to stand very close indeed to the two puddles, in them probably, for their beta rays even to reach you.



Sounds like a bit of a non-story........
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The most recent story by the BBC Environment Correspondant. I think there was a few people on here that seemed to trust a story published by the BBC. (I was not one of these)

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Fukushima leak is 'much worse than we were led to believe'

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-23779561

Some 1,000 tanks have been built to hold the water. But these are believed to be at around 85% of their capacity and every day an extra 400 tonnes of water are being added.

Dr Ken Buesseler is a senior scientist at Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution who has examined the waters around Fukushima.

"It is not over yet by a long shot, Chernobyl was in many ways a one week fire-explosive event, nothing with the potential of this right on the ocean."







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Some 1,000 tanks have been built to hold the water. But these are believed to be at around 85% of their capacity and every day an extra 400 tonnes of water are being added.



The teacher in me wants to mark that wrong.

1000 tanks of indeterminate size at 85% of capacity, which is therefore an unknown capacity.

An extra 400 tonnes are being added per day, that might mean you've got half a day before the 15% is used up by the 400 tonnes, or it might mean you have many years because the 1000 tanks are themselves thousands of tonnes.

I do think it needs international intervention to monitor it properly, but that above quote demonstrates the need for a good story. No actual data about the problem being made to sound like an imminent threat. Terrible journalism.
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The most recent story by the BBC Environment Correspondant. I think there was a few people on here that seemed to trust a story published by the BBC. (I was not one of these)




My specific comment was that I'd trust the BBC (or other bigger news organisations) over some random site BUT still not blindly believe anything they say.
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It's the "believed" and "around" that gets me with these reports. As soon as you see vague statements like that you might as well right the rest of the piece off.

Also worth remembering how vocal the anti nuclear power movement are and how desperate they are to run with any potential problem, usually at the expense of actual facts and figures.
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Continuing to destabilise: BBC Source.

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-23918882
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Statement about the measuring equipment is atrocious if it's to be believed
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I've seen another couple of posts elsewhere about measuring the leaks. It's basically 2 guys walking round manually checking levels.

Even in the high radiation environment, there are much more efficient ways of measuring tank levels.
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I can't see what the long term solution is to this fairly serious problem.
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Someone for the love of god get John down there to sort this mess out
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There's a lot of conflicting information about the Fukushima accident as well as a few articles stating that the media has blown it all out of proportion and while it is not completely safe, it's not as catastrophic as it is being made out to be.
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No news like bad news. Plus everyone loves a bit of Nuclear hysteria
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just encase the lot in a concrete sarcophagus like they did at chernobyl
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Then you get radioactive aliens like inside the Chernobyl one.
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Tiger doesn't believe in shit like that
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Why arnt the japs given correct PPE. H&S would be all over this in uk

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