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Author Xe on tb's, which management?
Vauxdan88
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17th Nov 12 at 19:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Looking into the idea of getting some tbs and management for my dizzy xe. Not sure which tbs to go for yet,if any (just trying to price it up at mo) just wondering if the megajolt complete kit for xe's, on trigger-wheel.com is the right kit for me?
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Seems very very cheap to me - which as always rings alarm bells.... i could be completely wrong..

you are best of deciding who you want to map it - find out what they prefer to use and go with that - i ran OMEX on mine years ago
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17th Nov 12 at 19:49   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

im using a kit from qed, jenvey dth bodies and dta management on my x20xev. works for me. pretty sure they do kits for all differant engines.
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17th Nov 12 at 20:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Webber Alpha Setup here, Cars been running it around 12 years, never had a problem.
Infact i thinks its the longest running Corsa with an XE on Throttle bodies there is come to think about it.

[Edited on 17-11-2012 by BeArDy]
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Cheers guys for the advice but has anyone else got info/opinions on the megajolt kit? I know it's relatively cheap but I've always believed megajolt are a good 'brand'?? And cheers for the offer Beardy (fellow Beardy might I add,my nicknames Beardy too) lol but I'm not looking to do it this side of Xmas! Gf's bday 6 days before aswell so no can do this year!

[Edited on 17-11-2012 by Vauxdan88]
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Presuming you meant you had it for sale by saying you had one 'here'
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17th Nov 12 at 21:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

No sorry not for sale
Would not sell the car, just meant i am running a corsa with Webber Alpha

MegaJolt alot of people use it aswell as megasquirt BUT normal by the time you have added all the bits and bobs on it works out not far off a good mark ECU second hand

Good Luck Beardy
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17th Nov 12 at 21:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Ah right so that kit on that site isn't everything you need management wise?
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17th Nov 12 at 21:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

you wont see too much of a gain without spending stupid amounts and getting it mapped...

better off buy this, its 190-200bhp easy

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/vauxhall-nova-redtop-modified-/140885997514?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item20cd75b7ca
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quote:
Originally posted by Jed D
you wont see too much of a gain without spending stupid amounts and getting it mapped...

better off buy this, its 190-200bhp easy

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/vauxhall-nova-redtop-modified-/140885997514?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item20cd75b7ca


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17th Nov 12 at 21:51   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I had MBE which came with the SBD taper 208 kit I had.
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quote:
Originally posted by Jed D
you wont see too much of a gain without spending stupid amounts and getting it mapped...

better off buy this, its 190-200bhp easy

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/vauxhall-nova-redtop-modified-/140885997514?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item20cd75b7ca



jed i do hope you were taking the piss

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Vauxdan88
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Haha no thanks
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18th Nov 12 at 09:30   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Can the xe ecu not be remapped to use TPS instead of AFM like the VTS boys do?
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no - they arent flashable ecu's - dont forget the engine / managment dates back to the late 1980's
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So what's with the 'won't see too much gain without spending stupid money comment',I thought on a good engine (mines freshly rebuilt) you could gain upto about 30bhp with tbs and management? Which wouldn't cost a massive amount really if I could use that magejolt kit
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you would need a set of cams and a flowed head to reach the 200bhp area with a health bottom end, if you want to go alot over this then you would need to rev higher and need arp bolts, steel rods high comp pistons and better cams, all depends on how much power you want to end up with? you would need at least 45mm bodies or 52mm for bigger power.
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quote:
Originally posted by Mattb
no - they arent flashable ecu's - dont forget the engine / managment dates back to the late 1980's


Tell that to rstuning then.. Cause last I heard they can map them.

MegaJolt is useless for you as it spark only,
Megasquirt is good for the money but you sort o need to know what your doing.

I'd get the direct to head qed bodies I found them easy to fit on my mates,
I had at power bodies which were also awesome,
Management wise ring your local mapper see what they like or use,
May even be able to get a deal for ecu and mapping etc.
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quote:
Originally posted by davegreen
you would need a set of cams and a flowed head to reach the 200bhp area with a health bottom end, if you want to go alot over this then you would need to rev higher and need arp bolts, steel rods high comp pistons and better cams, all depends on how much power you want to end up with? you would need at least 45mm bodies or 52mm for bigger power.


I'm not looking for 200bhp though mate,just 170-180 which is why I'm thinking this sort of mod, as it's a relatively easy/quick/cheap gain. Dont want to spend mega amounts though coz I want a let sometime In the very near future.
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Originally posted by gazza808
quote:
Originally posted by Mattb
no - they arent flashable ecu's - dont forget the engine / managment dates back to the late 1980's


Tell that to rstuning then.. Cause last I heard they can map them.

MegaJolt is useless for you as it spark only,
Megasquirt is good for the money but you sort o need to know what your doing.

I'd get the direct to head qed bodies I found them easy to fit on my mates,
I had at power bodies which were also awesome,
Management wise ring your local mapper see what they like or use,
May even be able to get a deal for ecu and mapping etc.


Same again, don't want to spend the sort of money a qed kit would cost so not really an option to be honest.
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19th Nov 12 at 12:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Get 45's and a cav dizzy kit old school and should see the bjp you want
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Well unless you get some second hand you can forget about bodies. Seeing as you don't want to spend a lot I look for some cheap 45's or bike bodines and cab dizzy set up as said up there. But doubt you'll get the power your after and it'll probably drive worse than it does now and drink aload more fuel.
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19th Nov 12 at 13:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

unless you can map it yourself its never going to be all that cheap for tb's
ianofbhills
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19th Nov 12 at 14:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Just save your money and get the turbo sooner as its what you want in the long run anyway
Vauxdan88
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quote:
Originally posted by gazza808
Well unless you get some second hand you can forget about bodies. Seeing as you don't want to spend a lot I look for some cheap 45's or bike bodines and cab dizzy set up as said up there. But doubt you'll get the power your after and it'll probably drive worse than it does now and drink aload more fuel.


That's what I was planning on yeah, second hand bike bodies, I know I'd never get a new set of proper car bodies cheap. Been looking at r1's at between about 100-150

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