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Corsa_Sport21
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25th Aug 11 at 21:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

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Kano, who do you work for??


Working for Ace these days Nik..


Aye a though that since its them who get all the police work etc.
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25th Aug 11 at 21:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

R.I.P!
nathy_87
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25th Aug 11 at 21:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Wonder if AK or Fee where there?
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Doesn't look like it according to the thread on TrackScotland
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Crail has been a death trap in the waiting. Place is a joke for health and safety. Hope this changes things at Crail.

RIP.
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25th Aug 11 at 22:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

What amazes me is they actually lay a track out with tyres! How that can be thought as safe is beyond me.
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The Place must make an absolute fortune you would think they would spend a bit of money on it
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He most definately didnt go through the windscreen.

I had to go and collect the car for the police, knew it was serious but didn't realise he had died.




Kano, was it a silver Clio? If so, I saw you pass the Diageo site that afternoon, the car looked a right mess, I assumed it had come from Crail as I saw a fair few motors heading that way all day...


Mase
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25th Aug 11 at 22:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

my mate seen the crash happen right infront of him. he said it didnt even look that bad.
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26th Aug 11 at 00:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Fuck me RIP man. We all rinse people for driving dangerously on the roads and tell people to keep http the track, but we forget how dangerous the track can be! I think we all know someone who's had an off on a track day and can imagine how hard it would be if that friend had died. Sad stuff
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sad a petrol head has died like, but could probably been avoided if wor helmet and seatbelt/harnesses, which i would never go on track without . i think its crazy to gan on track with out both.
but whats done it done. hopefully the track will get a kick up the arse to enforce safety better
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26th Aug 11 at 09:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Wearing a helmet wouldnt have made much difference if he was thrown clear of the car due to wearing no seatbelt.
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26th Aug 11 at 10:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

A sad loss.

However, *if* he wasn't wearing a helmet and *if* he wasn't even wearing a seatbelt, it strikes me as inevitable. An extremely foolish thing to do.
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26th Aug 11 at 10:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

well i know a few people going up to crail tomorrow for the sxoc drift day so will see if anythings said when the go up about belts and helmets
Kano
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quote:
Originally posted by Kano
He most definately didnt go through the windscreen.

I had to go and collect the car for the police, knew it was serious but didn't realise he had died.




Kano, was it a silver Clio? If so, I saw you pass the Diageo site that afternoon, the car looked a right mess, I assumed it had come from Crail as I saw a fair few motors heading that way all day...


Yup thats the one..
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Crail has been a death trap in the waiting. Place is a joke for health and safety. Hope this changes things at Crail.

RIP.


This, even back in the day when Gordy rolled his Civic up there.
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Originally posted by Lawrah
Crail has been a death trap in the waiting. Place is a joke for health and safety. Hope this changes things at Crail.

RIP.


This, even back in the day when Gordy rolled his Civic up there.


I remember seeing that happen
Gez G
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27th Aug 11 at 20:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Yeah was a long time ago now but even back then the track was laid out by lorry tyres - yu think they woulda improved it by now.
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28th Aug 11 at 10:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I think because it's a historic protected air field they can't go changing stuff whenever they please and would probably have to go through the proper channels but seatbelt and helmet should be a minimum
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I think because it's a historic protected air field they can't go changing stuff whenever they please and would probably have to go through the proper channels but seatbelt and helmet should be a minimum


this.

they want be aloud to building anything out there for those reasons i would imagine.
Corsa_Sport21
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28th Aug 11 at 11:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

But it would be easy enough to use maybe cones or even those plastic barriers like they use at the go karts etc.
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"Kevin wasnt wearing his harness at the time and when his clio hit the tyre wall the car rolled several times resulting in him being thrown out of the car"

His own fault tbh. What a mug.

Harsh but true.

How anyone can drive on the road with no seatbelt/harness on amazes me let alone on track!



[Edited on 28-08-2011 by Ben J]
Mieran
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28th Aug 11 at 16:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Someone just died at York today
Wrighty
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28th Aug 11 at 19:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/9220873.Young_racer_dies_in_high_speed_crash/?ref=rss
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29th Aug 11 at 11:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Adam and I weren't there, so don't know any details/facts other than what has been posted up on the news and various websites.

The general consensus is that we wasnt wearing a seatbelt or helmet, but don't know if that is for definite. I think it is crazy that Crail don't enforce this but also think it is crazy that people don't use their own initiative and think it is ok not to.

We have run trackdays there in the past and helmets are not compulsory. We always recommend that people wear them nevertheless, and I have never been out on the circuit without one.

There was also apparently a 10year old girl in the car at the time, fully secured in the car, and she managed to escape with a broken arm (again, just what I have heard)

Sad times, and with all the complaints that Crail have had over the years I'm not sure I can see it staying open much longer

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