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John
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18th Apr 12 at 18:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Also looks like I've got a non clone box, chip ID 085B
AlunJ
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18th Apr 12 at 18:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Could be channel list or server doesn't have those channels, bit strange though
John
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18th Apr 12 at 18:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I think more channel list, it has some HD channels so must have the HD pack, it was just a random one I picked earlier on to get a test though.
noshua
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18th Apr 12 at 18:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I'm still watching this thread, glad to see it being piss easy to setup and relatively cheap.
John
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18th Apr 12 at 19:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Definitely really easy. I'll have to pick a server for the weekend, maybe get another couple of tests first.
Eddie.2k
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18th Apr 12 at 20:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

What website do you buy your servers from?
AlunJ
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18th Apr 12 at 21:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Well I would have recommended mine but it's been glitchy all evening and just gone down in the middle of my film Found it on ultimate cardsharing forums
John
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18th Apr 12 at 22:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Got to the bottom of the he thing. Was the feed I was using, fine on a sky box but not the open box, swapped to another feed and it's fine.
Dom
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18th Apr 12 at 22:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Can anyone explain what's actually going on when you change and watch a channel when using a dodgy box?
I did originally think that on channel change the box queries the server for the encryption key but that doesn't explain the glitchiness whilst watching unless it continuously requests the key?

[Edited on 18-04-2012 by Dom]
John
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18th Apr 12 at 22:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

It does continuously check the key. I'm not sure how often it changes but it's regularly.
Dom
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18th Apr 12 at 22:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by John
It does continuously check the key. I'm not sure how often it changes but it's regularly.


Does the key continuously change then? Always wondered why none of the boxes support local caching of the keys.
AlunJ
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18th Apr 12 at 22:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

In 25mins of watching the same channel my box has made 186 ECM requests so it's checking the key about 8 times a minute I guess?
John
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18th Apr 12 at 22:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Where are you checking that alun?
AlunJ
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18th Apr 12 at 22:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

My server is all fully automated online. Logging in let's you see everything from server status, ECM requests, channel being watched etc

[Edited on 18-04-2012 by AlunJ]
John
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18th Apr 12 at 22:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Ahh, wondered why I couldn't find it on the box.

[Edited on 18-04-2012 by John]
AlunJ
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21st Apr 12 at 15:03   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Perks of this, watching 3pm kick offs on setanta
ljames555
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21st Apr 12 at 17:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Can someone give me a list on what I need, price and where I get it from?

I need the following:-

Motorised dish

A box so I can record another channel.

I have a hdmi splitter which sends my tivo box upstairs and I can control the box with a app over wifi, so what can I do with this set up do the boxes support that?

Where do I get the codes? from? And is there problems getting these?

With all this can I get HD football(including 3pm kick off), movies, kids cartoons?
Dom
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21st Apr 12 at 23:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

You haven't got many options for a multi-tuner boxes hence the cost -

Vu+ Duo @ clone is around £200 original is around £30)
Dreambox 7025 (SD only) @ £160-350 (only managed to find a handful of places that stock them)
Dreambox 8000 HD (HD via DVI connection, no HDMI, supports 4 tuners usually comes with 2x DVB-S2 tuners but you'd need to check before purchase) @ clone is roughly £500 original around £800.
(Tuners for the Dreambox's are around £40-50 each).


There are loads of plugins for Dreambox's, so that would be your better bet if you want remote control via your mobile (would either be an app or web interface); can't say i've seen anything for VU boxes though.


Only had a brief look into motorised dishes but both the Dark Motor and Technomate tm2600 (metal gears rather than plastic, both around £50) motors get recommended. Likewise the Gibertini 1m and TD88 dishes.


As for the cardsharing side of it, there are a number of forums (like cs-kings.biz) that offer providers. Just a case of picking one and setting up the c-line on your box.
And subscription depends on the chosen provider but yes, you could get all those channels.
WATSON
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22nd Apr 12 at 09:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Correct me if i'm wrong,

so all i need to get myself is a spiderbox or dreambox connect to my original sky dish outside and find myself a server and hook up to a live internet connection...

Can watch full sky movies/sports HD ect for around £15 to £20 a month from a server?

Anyone recommend a really good box?
AlunJ
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22nd Apr 12 at 13:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Pretty much yep! For the price the openbox is okay, only real problem I have is the epg is crap. I'm not so bothered as I'm running it alongside my sky box for the time being. And you can get the full shebang for £10-12ish a month.
noshua
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UK-SAT on the cs-kings.biz is doing 3 months for £10, 6 for £20 or 12 for £35, the 12 month deal expires tonight though apparently. Proper cheap!
Eddie.2k
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22nd Apr 12 at 15:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Anyone recommend a good dish? Would i be ok to buy a normal sky mini dish?
AlunJ
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22nd Apr 12 at 15:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by noshua
UK-SAT on the cs-kings.biz is doing 3 months for £10, 6 for £20 or 12 for £35, the 12 month deal expires tonight though apparently. Proper cheap!


not bad that at all, I've got a month at £6 with my current server which I thought was good
ljames555
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22nd Apr 12 at 15:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

So do you need a motorised dish ? I have recent sky dish up but I guess this limits you to certain channels ?? Which ones?
AlunJ
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It limits you to pretty much everything you would get on sky uk's full package... A motorised dish just means you can tune into foreign satellites

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