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possy
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We both ran good times i beat my recorod and so did dave but he did have them big slicks on though lol


aye, the slicks helped a lot like, said his rev gauge shot off the dash he got that much traction
i just find it funny how he fitted 1.2 8v brakes to it to get them wheels on

what clutch and flywheel are you running btw?


its got a billet flywheel and a helix 4 paddle
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good stuff
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Jed are you in love with David Dixon as you don't stop going on about him hahaha
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just mates. getting storage and help for my corsa, nowt wrong with giving griffin auto-sport a bit of rep
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I no what your sayin your all a bit quicker than team griffin sport for now lol
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Coming along nicely now matey, should have the outer mould ready by the end of today.

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good lad nice work so far
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Just the inside to clean up and mould then were sorted for these carbon tailgates

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I like it chris only took a few week not 18 month ha
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18months that means I've got 17months left to get them finished lol

Inside has been turned orange ready for the next process tomorrow

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ok pal no prob
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Judt had the word that my carbon boot shud be ready for the weekend and the morrettes to oyea carnt wait keep up the good work chris
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Chris can you do dry carbon or only wet lay?
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beast that mate
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Chris can you do dry carbon or only wet lay?


Can you eleborate on dry carbon?

These tailgates are going to be infused to make them very light and seriously strong.
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Blatant copy and paste time from somebody who makes competition spec panels for Evo 5/6s:

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'Dry' carbon, or pre-preg carbon looks better than shiny wet layup carbon IMO but pre-preg can also be lacquered to look as good as the Seibon carbon without adding too much weight. The lightest wet layup bonnet i've seen was 10kg, the same weight as a standard bonnet so other than looks, there's no advantage to fitting one to any race car. Prersonally, when i see dry carbon on a car i see 'lightweight' and serious competitor!


To explain wet and dry carbon: Wet layup is where the mould is coated with a thick layer of clear gel then a section of carbon matting has to be 'wetted out' with resin on a flat surface, laid into the mould and the air rolled out. All subsequent layers are done the same way and it's difficult to lay it up without using lots of heavy resin. Pre-preg is the same carbon matting but it is already impregnated with a heat curing resin - only just enough to do the job so it is much lighter. The pre-preg is laid into the mould and built up in layers then it's vacummed in a bag and baked under vacuum in an oven until the resin sets.

The difference in weight is like day and night TBH and although easier to make the parts in pre-preg, the materials and time to make a part are much higher than wet layup hence the higher costs.

The main defference is - wet layup bonnet 10Kg. Pre-preg bonnet 2.5Kg

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I don't really use wet lay as you say the resin to cloth ratio is too high, thus making the part too heavy and weak.

I expect these tailgates to be 2.5kg/3kg and that's a total weight of both inner and outer skins together.

I've attended quite a few shows this year and can honestly say there's a lot of dodgy carbon parts out there!

We'll let the photos do the talking when Possy gets his.
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Oyeaaa bitches windows are ordered and there is a few week waiting for them soon as they come photos will be up
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Chris im only asking because if it is dry carbon your doing ill be interested. The aesthetics doesnt matter too much for me, more the weight saving which is what I was asking you at TOTB

[Edited on 05-09-2012 by TimC909]
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Hi Tim, it is dry carbon matey, I'll be updating here showing the lamination process.

Wet lay is okay for one off parts I.e overlaying with carbon and wetting it out with resin.

If you put a clear coating on the mould first then wet lay carbon into it, I can personally guarantee small or sometimes large air bubbles/fish eyes plus a heavy finished product lol

No point in having carbon parts if they weigh just as much as the original metal items lol
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Agreed!
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I just know that this boot lid will be epic when it gets on the car but with or without the spoiler thats the biggie
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Well it's started now lol

I think this side will weigh less than 1kg!!



Just the other side to set away tomorrow, hopefully have this one ready for you by the weekend.

I'll give you a ring on thursday matey
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Looking good mate and no prob speak to you soon

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