wakey1512
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how the fuck would i know im just reading out what ive been told backed up with the above link which i found
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philip2
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lotus developed the C16xe that made 148bhp, but vaux thought it would be abit stupid to sell it in that tune with the c20xes made 147/156 or so, or the ecotec lumps makin 135/140 or whatever they make(never work on eco tec so dont know)
there were rumours the lotus software was knocking about, but i guess to really know what they did you would have to get hold of lotus. bit shit really as the gsi is a well over rated car with the crap 109/106bhp they sold it with
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Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by wakey1512
how the fuck would i know im just reading out what ive been told backed up with the above link which i found
sorry, i just assumed you knew as you had information.
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wakey1512
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i have the information i was told and the information in the link, the information i was told was basically what philip2 put
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philip2
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i will state though...i did say developed and not built.
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Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by wakey1512
i have the information i was told and the information in the link, the information i was told was basically what philip2 put
that lotus maybe designed a c16xe that maybe made 148bhp then vauxhall thought no and put a different one in the production cars?
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philip2
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lotus did develope the c16xe to make 148bhp, but vaux had it restricted, so essentially it is the same engine, bar a few go faster goodies.
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wakey1512
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its not really a different one, its the same block but with a restrictive inlet. if you can prove to me that lotus developed only the inlet then i will agree nick
[Edited on 06-01-2010 by wakey1512]
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Nic Barnes
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its not really a different one, its the same block but with a restrictive inlet. if you can prove to me that lotus developed only the inlet then i will agree
the block is the same as a 1.6 8v. or 1.4 8v, or 1.2 8v essentially. i cant see lotus developing an engine block for a gm production car thats nothing special. considering its the same engine in the 1.6 16v astra, just with different inlet manifold. essentially the same though.
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SportBoy
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its still a vauxhall engine people can say what they want. . ive been developing my let and its now not a vauxhall engine because i stuck a different turbo on it and changed a cam or 2.
[Edited on 06-01-2010 by SportBoy]
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wakey1512
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they may well have developed bits of the engine as it was destined for the gsi, which is not really a sports car but the best of the range
can you really achieve 40+ bhp from inlet mods?
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SportBoy
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can you really achieve 40+ bhp from inlet mods?
yes ish.
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Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by wakey1512
they may well have developed bits of the engine as it was destined for the gsi, which is not really a sports car but the best of the range
can you really achieve 40+ bhp from inlet mods?
not on its own no. which kinda says its more a vauxhall engine of a production car than a lotus developed engine in a production car.
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wakey1512
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im lost now..
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Nic Barnes
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lost on what exactly?
for a good 150bhp ish, you would need ideally a throttle body set up, a right good exhaust system and a good exhaust manifold and some right good mapping. none of which comes with a corsa gsi production car.
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wakey1512
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so what do you think lotus tuned on the 1.6? to achieve over 40bhp more?
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jr
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my 1.4 made 136bhp in something which weighed 780kg, and did a 15.7 on its only 1/4 run
keith piper made 191bhp with the sbd catalog thrown at it, it then caught on fire when the rod exicted the block
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Nic Barnes
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so what do you think lotus tuned on the 1.6? to achieve over 40bhp more?
inlet and exhaust and different mapping maybe different cams, different head work? although apply that principle to a 20xe and youd get 200+ ish bhp. so for a production engine tuned by lotus, id kinda say the 1.6 16v isnt anything amazing. its a whole 6 or 9bhp depending on c16xe or x16xe more than a 1.6 8v vauxhall engine.
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Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by marklawton
my bro had piper cams, janspeed manifold, decat, magnex exhaust, bit of head work, an dbilas throtle bodies, used to keep up with a few of are mates 2.0 corsa`s and used to leave civic type r`s standing
id actually prefer to go back to that comment anyway 
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BLine_Sport
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nice to get back on topic... jr what had you done to yours?
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wakey1512
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Originally posted by wakey1512
so what do you think lotus tuned on the 1.6? to achieve over 40bhp more?
inlet and exhaust and different mapping maybe different cams, different head work? although apply that principle to a 20xe and youd get 200+ ish bhp. so for a production engine tuned by lotus, id kinda say the 1.6 16v isnt anything amazing. its a whole 6 or 9bhp depending on c16xe or x16xe more than a 1.6 8v vauxhall engine.
thats alot more than just the inlet, but i see your point
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jr
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x14xe
ported, poished and flowed head
piper valve caps and springs
schrick 264 cams
arp's
omega pistons
omex ecu
7500 rev limit
sbd manifold
decat
blueflame system
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BLine_Sport
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have you got a graph online at all?
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x14xe sport
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well known fact lotus made the x14-16xe engine i read it on another forum so will def be right, also i'd imagine at that wheel ripping power you'l be eating skylines etc so be warned!
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Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by x14xe sport
well known fact lotus made the x14-16xe engine i read it on another forum so will def be right, also i'd imagine at that wheel ripping power you'l be eating skylines etc so be warned!
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