Cosmo
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tbh, its not as bad as you think, stir frys, various meats with flavourings, etc. I thought it was going to be hard and it really hasnt been.
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Cosmo
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Oh, and as you're only small Id up the carb part a bit unless you have excess fat you're looking at getting rid of? So could have wholewheat bread for a sandwich, etc.
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ashleh
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I don't really have any excess fat lmao. I'm not looking to lose weight, only to build a bit of definition and tone up.
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ashleh
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Right quickly did this, if you could gimme an idea on anything I should add, remove etc. Also on portion sizes for each snack/meal.
Breakfast
2 weetabix
L-glutamine
Multivitamins
Omega3
Snack
Fruit
Lunch
Chicken/Tuna Salad or Chicken Sandwich + light mayo
Snack
Light cheese string
Fruit
Workout
Post-workout
Protein shake
Banana
Dinner
Meat
Veg
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Cosmo
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How much protein is that, wont be much by the looks of it. If you want to gain some bulk you're going to have to have plenty of protein.
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ashleh
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lmao tbh I haven't a clue. I've never watched what I've been eating, and never checked any of the intakes =/ Apparantly I need 223g of protein a day, or 5 portions according to the P90x sheet.
I need to do the proper math but that was just a general guideline of how I thought would be a good idea to eat, but obviously not.
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Paul_J
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throughout my whole first phase I had whole meal wraps...
Tesco do whole meal wraps (green writing on the packet) - far better than white flour wraps etc.
I'd have 1 of them full of chicken and lettuce, maybe a few sliced peppers or even peanut butter in there...
Then I'd put it in a george foremans grill for a few secs to heat it all up, and eat it 
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Paul_J
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i have 2 scoops of protein (drink) in the morning and 2 scoops of protein (drink) post work out.
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Cosmo
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Paul, were you having any other carbs other than those wraps?
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quote:
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Paul, were you having any other carbs other than those wraps?
Yeah my cerial in the morning.
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Cosmo
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Thats not too bad then, more or less what I was having but my 'extra' portion in phase 1 was coming after my workout.
Not much is going to change for phase 2 other than a slight increase in the carbs, so can have a portion of basmati rice, or wholewheat pasta with my tea after the workout.
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Paul_J
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Yeah i've been lacking a bit last week...
I may do 1 extra week of phase 2 to get back in sync with you 
I've bought loads of whole grain rice but barely eaten much of it!
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I'd probably have a crack at this but just don't have time. Working silly hours plus Specials training, its a no go. I've re joined a gm though so i'm going to do what I can.
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quote:
Originally posted by Paul_J
throughout my whole first phase I had whole meal wraps...
Tesco do whole meal wraps (green writing on the packet) - far better than white flour wraps etc.
I'd have 1 of them full of chicken and lettuce, maybe a few sliced peppers or even peanut butter in there...
Then I'd put it in a george foremans grill for a few secs to heat it all up, and eat it
What was your daily eating plan if you don't mind me asking, I think I could manage wraps .
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Pop
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Ok I'm going to put this out there as I'm sure it might open up some debate.
In this thread people have been saying that to get big you need to eat big and also to build muscle you need to be in a calorie surplus. Would I not be better off following the diet plan for level 2 which is an intake of 2400 calories per day rather than level 1 at 1800 calories?
I'm all for following the plan 100%, just interested in other peoples opinions as there is a few knowledgable people on here.
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Cosmo
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Phase 1 is all about cutting, it gets rid of excess fat and prepares you for Phase 2 and 3 where the aims are to bulk up. The diet changes for phases 2 and 3 where you do eat more carbs, etc.
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quote:
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Phase 1 is all about cutting, it gets rid of excess fat and prepares you for Phase 2 and 3 where the aims are to bulk up. The diet changes for phases 2 and 3 where you do eat more carbs, etc.
I don't think I've explained very well. At the start they get you to do an equation with your body weight etc which gives you the calorie intake you need to do the program and everyday life etc. With this worked out I was level 1.
I'm not talking about the different phases of the diet as I know they change every 4 weeks. I'm talking about which level of diet for overall calorie intake.
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Cosmo
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Yeah, and my point was eat to your correct diet in the first round as that bit is all about getting rid of excess fat so it will be slightly less cals, etc.
TBH just stick to it and see how it works out, no good trying to second guess it before its started.
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Pop
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Coolio, I appreciate the feedback.
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Paul_J
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Personally I think if you're super skinny, you should just ignore phase 1 diet...
go for level 2 phase 2 from the start...
My mate was super skinny and had to eat a lot of stuff to gain muscle.
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Cosmo
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Aye, which is what I said previously, up the carbs a bit (which is basically the difference between 1 and 2) but leave the rest the same.
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Pop
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Did anyone measure their body fat level before starting?
Also, do you think the program allows you to increase body fat %?
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Cosmo
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Why would you want to increase body fat? Surely you'll want to increase your size via muscle?
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Pop
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Yeah I do want to increase size via muscle but I personally don't think I carry enough fat. Fat isn't a bad thing as there are ideal levels to have.
[Edited on 15-11-2009 by Pop]
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Cosmo
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TBH I personally wouldnt go looking to increase bodyfat whilst on this, Id stick to what it suggests and see how it pans out - tbh there are plenty of transformation pics of there of skinny guys before and become big guys after.
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