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Pete_vxl
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9th Nov 08 at 21:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i have an a200, first camera and is really good.


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quote:
Originally posted by Gaz
quote:
Originally posted by Doug
Get the D60, It just beat the competition (Cannon and Sony) in a test

1 mag is not official though is it?


I've got to agree there, about a month back I spent most nights looking through reviews for the 450D, D60 and A350. Different reviews rating each camera differently.

End of the day, you get Canon people, Nikon people and I imagine, Sony, Olympus, Pentax people etc.

Different people prefer different menu layouts etc. I had my S5600 and to change the ISO you went into a menu, down 1, enter then you scroll through the options. I always thought it was a bit arkward considering I tended to use it quite regularly. I believe the Nikons are a similar layout but the canons have an ISO button, so it's 1 button, scroll, 1 button, set.

That was one of the reasons I chose Canon, it seemed a more usable menu setup. Also the Nikons lack of an internal focusing motor was a big turn off. I also thought the Live View would probably come in handy too, the Sony also has Live View although I'd heard bad things about their high ISO handling which was probably the most annoying thing about my S5600
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Seriouslly, Go look for a second hand deal, EOS 400D with a few lens, A great start to learning photography with some added benifits of AF etc...

Nikon produce good images (probally better then canon) at the buget end of the scale BUT YOU HAVE TO KNOW THE CAMERA
Whittie would beat me hands down with his Nikon - Why? Because he read the manual and learnt. Something that not many people would do and i hold my hat off to him for spending the time to do so.
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A lot of people don't like second hand, me included, I like my stuff shiny and new.
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Hmm its a tough one, Basicly i have £90 in amazon vouchers, so i really need to use amazon.

Plus as John said i dont really like buying 2nd hand.
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10th Nov 08 at 18:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

2nd hand in the camera world is not like the shit you see in the car world.
Camera's are well looked after...

Anyway, i've said enough, Happy Snapping
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quote:
Originally posted by Gaz
2nd hand in the camera world is not like the shit you see in the car world.
Camera's are well looked after...

Anyway, i've said enough, Happy Snapping


Would agree - bought a whole load of my kit second hand from TalkPhotography - all very well looked after and saved myself a fortune

Completely up to you though of course....
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its not the 2nd hand that overly bothers me, its the fact i have amazon vouchers and need to use them
Gaz
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10th Nov 08 at 20:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

sell them on?
Nismo
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10th Nov 08 at 20:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Ok i might up my price range to 350, the Canon 400D then fails into my range?

What would you think to this one?
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Very good IMO, but can be had for £250 second hand and means you don't have to use vouchers

Mine was awesome but I ended up moving up a couple of bodies in the range.
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"budget", i used that word once, went completely out the window
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quote:
Originally posted by Gaz
"budget", i used that word once, went completely out the window


I know that one
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/Canon-Digital-Camera-18-55mm-3-5-5-6/dp/B0014IK7QO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1226351416&sr=8-1
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quote:
Originally posted by Mike B
quote:
Originally posted by Gaz
"budget", i used that word once, went completely out the window


I know that one


not quite yet you dont
wait for the Bag, that has to be filled"
Nismo
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hmmm more confusing now lol

the 400D or 1000D? arrgh
John
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1000D
Gaz
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i thought that 1000D was the lowest (albeit the series numbers dont state that)?
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It is, it's newer than the 400D and comes with an IS lens, there probably isn't much in it though.
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I see, I'd still go for it though (400D / 450D)
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450 is out of budget, why the 400 over the 1000D?

1000D has liveview, better high iso perforamce, bigger battery, IS lens, etc etc.

The 1000D is technically the update to the 400D, the 450D is the next level up.

[Edited on 10-11-2008 by John]
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quote:
Originally posted by Gaz
quote:
Originally posted by Mike B
quote:
Originally posted by Gaz
"budget", i used that word once, went completely out the window


I know that one


not quite yet you dont
wait for the Bag, that has to be filled"


I know, I'm fully aware it's not a cheap hobby, I was referring more to the Corsa sat on the drive that I've spent probably circa 6k on since I got it And still plenty more to come.

My next planned lens is about £400
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your Corsas had 6k spent on it!
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Altogether, 2k to buy, 3k on mods, just short of 1k on fixing.

Wait till I start doing the proper mods
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quote:
Originally posted by John
450 is out of budget, why the 400 over the 1000D?

1000D has liveview, better high iso perforamce, bigger battery, IS lens, etc etc.

The 1000D is technically the update to the 400D, the 450D is the next level up.

[Edited on 10-11-2008 by John]


1000D i thought was below the 400D, probaly wrong but nevermind.

liveview sucks, no point in it IMO
Higher ISO - i dont have a use for this tbh,
bigger battery - grip the fucking thing and charger extra's?
IS lens - is the only advantage i can see, but your going to buy other lens anyway IMO...?

just my views on things

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