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BarnshaW
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well i am sure after reading this thread dave will give you some good discounts for your super duper good reviews on v-scam
N16K
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I just dont see the issue here, all people have to do is ask for a refund and prove that they have actually paid


That is not a legal requirement. V Sport should have the records of who they sold to.

[Edited on 19-10-2008 by N16K]
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u see thisis why i am :S

as we never got a invoice, recete or w.e of dave ...

i no it probz would of come with the product but...

just emailing it to people would of been handy !
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Originally posted by dan-h
so why not reply with the truth instead of inventing scenarios and making false claims?


Inventing scenarios? if you mean the 8months thing, people have been waiting for them since march, he takes the money all them months ago for a product he didnt have.
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pretty sure taking money and not giving a product and not returning the money is theft
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but you have said that you paid the cash in at a bank, they will have given you a reciept.

If you have lost your reciept then Dave has told you how to go about getting your refund.

what else do you need to know?
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OMFG Were you gonna ask for proof (receipt, bank statement, etc) from people so they could receive their lights? (the ones that never surfaced). No, you weren't. You should have a list of everyone who has paid along with their address, otherwise you would've struggled big time when it came to posting the lights.

Sounds to me like you've fucked up in more ways than one. Sounds like you've lost your list. Did you ever order the lights? Or has this just been an interest free loan for 8 months? Can you post up proof of the DEPO order please.
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Anyone else think it's a bit fishy that people have been waiting months for a product, then given weeks to get their details in for a refund - just as the company is moving premises and it is going to be out of the hands of the person 'responsible'...
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[Edited on 19-10-2008 by N16K]
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Yes alan, thats because Dave is nothing but a scam artist. Wouldnt suprise me if Dave is moving premises, changing company name and leaving everything else to the 'other people' who will be taking care of it all then.
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quote:
Originally posted by BarnshaW
pretty sure taking money and not giving a product and not returning the money is theft



give up with your claims

I have offered a refund, if people cant be bothered to keep proof of payment then thats their fault. Legally as a seller I am entitled to ask for proof of payment, if the buyer cant be arsed to provide it then thats their fault! however, if they ask for help then I will help them but idiots like you try and wind them up and make this into something that it isnt.

I can see that some of you have very limited capabilities of understanding something very simple, carry on with your childish internet chat and come to any conclusion that you wish.

However the truth is simple, people that have requested a refund have recieved them, people that have sat back and not bothered havent.
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has any one got a refund yet ? sure some one got a .. check and it bounced?
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Sale of goods act:
http://www.berr.gov.uk/whatwedo/consumers/fact-sheets/page38311.html
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quote:
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has any one got a refund yet ? sure some one got a .. check and it bounced?



nobody has EVER recieved a cheque from me for a refund.
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Someone in the group buy thread saud the cheque bounced, why would he lie? you did say if you payed by cheque, you would get a refund by cheque, if you payed by card, you would get a refund to your card etc.
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Q7. Do I have to produce a receipt to claim my rights?

No. In fact the trader doesn't have to give you a receipt in the first place so it would be unfair to say that you had to produce one. However, it might not be unreasonable for the shop to want some proof of purchase, so look to see if you have a cheque stub, bank statement, credit card slip etc., and this should be sufficient.
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quote:
Originally posted by DannyB
Someone in the group buy thread saud the cheque bounced, why would he lie? you did say if you payed by cheque, you would get a refund by cheque, if you payed by card, you would get a refund to your card etc.


they were referring to another user.
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quote:
Originally posted by DannyB
Someone in the group buy thread saud the cheque bounced, why would he lie? you did say if you payed by cheque, you would get a refund by cheque, if you payed by card, you would get a refund to your card etc.


im possitive he said tht it bounced i aint trying to cause shit !

think it was in the depo thread just deleted, as a new one has been made today..

i may be wrong but im possitve some one said tht
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"might not be unreasonable" does not say its a LEGAL requirement. i think the amount of time you have taken messing people about it would be REASONABLE to check ur own list and get off ur own ass to get people their money back.
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Surely if you cant send the goods then its up to the seller to appologise & refund with no quibbles?

Is that not the case here, or have the items been sent out then buyer want to return? Sorry I dont know the full story here, just seems alot of running around for something that should be very straight forward?
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One user that was part of the group buy paid by cheque, and it bounced. That is what they were refering to I think.
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quote:
Originally posted by Dave A
Q7. Do I have to produce a receipt to claim my rights?

No. In fact the trader doesn't have to give you a receipt in the first place so it would be unfair to say that you had to produce one. However, it might not be unreasonable for the shop to want some proof of purchase, so look to see if you have a cheque stub, bank statement, credit card slip etc., and this should be sufficient.



Both parties are technically in the right, but only one is morally in the right.
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Surely if you cant send the goods then its up to the seller to appologise & refund with no quibbles?





Not that simple, as soon as I offered refunds, 3 people rang up and asked for them giving me their CS username and asked me to repay their money onto their card. We do not keep card details, they are destroyed soon after the transction is complete.

I refused to give these refunds until they could prove who they were, and that they had actually paid. Then they come on here and complain.


I have done everything possible to provide refunds, now its up to the purchaser to ask for the refund and prove that they paid. its not hard, even the office of fair trading website confirms that I am being reasonable and compliant with the law by asking for proof, however the CS bandwagon think otherwise.
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quote:
Originally posted by Dave A

even the office of fair trading website confirms that I am being reasonable and compliant with the law
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Not 100%!

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