Steve X16XE
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Location: Barnsley, South Yorkshire
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Protec 4-1 manifold
De-cat
Standard middle section
Exhaust UK Backbox
Mantzel inlet manifold.....
Overlap.....
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antmashed
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Location: Hertford
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quote:
Originally posted by Simon_16v
What sorta power would be this?
X14XE
Cat-Back
4 branch manifold
Inlet manifold
De-Cat
i am also curious
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Linch
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Registered: 4th May 06
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100+ possibly, I had a x14xe with standard inlet, just had the induction pipe moved to the side under the battery made 95.1bhp 
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AndyCorsaSport
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Registered: 12th Feb 06
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quote:
Originally posted by Linch
100+ possibly, I had a x14xe with standard inlet, just had the induction pipe moved to the side under the battery made 95.1bhp
I also had that car  What a coincidence 
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Simon_16v
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Registered: 14th Aug 06
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quote:
Originally posted by antmashed
quote:
Originally posted by Simon_16v
What sorta power would be this?
X14XE
Cat-Back
4 branch manifold
Inlet manifold
De-Cat
i am also curious
Anyone?
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dean101287
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Registered: 22nd Jul 07
Location: Cardiff
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110bhp maybe
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Robin
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quote:
Originally posted by Simon_16v
quote:
Originally posted by antmashed
quote:
Originally posted by Simon_16v
What sorta power would be this?
X14XE
Cat-Back
4 branch manifold
Inlet manifold
De-Cat
i am also curious
Anyone?
Mine made 116bhp in that spec (Lexmaul inlet, Pipercross Viper, BFO exhaust, Janspeed manifold, decat) with a remap and raised rev limiter, however, standard 1.6s were quicker.
The same bits on the 1.6 engine saw 130bhp and it was totally different to drive, much smoother, a hell of a lot quicker, loads more low down grunt, just better all round.
We've recently done a 1.6 with a Mantzel copy inlet, Scorpion system, Janspeed manifold, decat and remap, and again, it made 130bhp.
It's in now for rod bolts, steel idlers, slightly bigger injectors and a remap and we're expecting good things from it.
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Daimo B
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quote:
Originally posted by Dave A
Its a mystery, unless you overlap the 2 graphs from the 2 engines taken on the same dyno on the same day then its irrelevant. I do use a vastly different cam profile, but 5ft/lb is nothing, different dynos have a +/- of 15% sometimes. People say mine (Dyno Dynamics in general) under reads compared to others but people get so hung up on BHP figures for no reason, in reality its what happens between 1000 rpm and 9000 rpm that is important. Look at V-tec. It makes a very poor, sluggish torque and power curve for 3/4 of the rev range then goes a bit mental. compare a 1600cc vtec engine with a well set up 1600cc 'normal' engine and at the point just before it 'comes on vtec' the non vtec engine is usually producing as much as 30-40 bhp more!
This is true, still good to see its gaining power still
Agreed about the Vtec systems, below vtec they are blow average power engines, until it hits vtec (obligitory Vtec YO) when it goes mental.
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corsa_rob
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Registered: 22nd Jan 06
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im currently looking for a x16xe corsa...and am thinking of tuning on a budget. this post is great 
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antmashed
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what about a x14xe on tb's
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lil_hobbo
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i fink will94 had tht spec on his 1.4 and got 120.9 i fink :S
also interested in spec for x14xe's
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Vaux Lad
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Registered: 15th Dec 04
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Mine:
X16xe
"Copy" mantzel inlet(which btw gave the same back to back gain that Stevex16xe's proper Mantzel gave)
Mild kent cams(near std profile)
Decat
2 1/4" exhaust, 4-1 exhaust manifold
Made 127bhp @ 6670rpm, at Jamsport in March
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Firestate88
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Location: Northampton England
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quote:
Originally posted by Linch
100+ possibly, I had a x14xe with standard inlet, just had the induction pipe moved to the side under the battery made 95.1bhp
what specs did it have?
also any more info on moving the standard inlet?
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antmashed
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this thread has beeen educational
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AndyCorsaSport
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quote:
Originally posted by Firestate88
quote:
Originally posted by Linch
100+ possibly, I had a x14xe with standard inlet, just had the induction pipe moved to the side under the battery made 95.1bhp
what specs did it have?
also any more info on moving the standard inlet?
Yeah, dont bother, complete waste of time, and causes more hassle.
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Firestate88
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haha fair enough
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richard_cooper
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Location: Mansfield, Nottingamshire
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What sort of difference would bigger injectors make to this sort of spec ?
mantzel
system
decat
manifold
264cams
headwork
remap
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jr
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quote:
Originally posted by antmashed
what about a x14xe on tb's
190bhp (if your keith piper)
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IvIarkgraham
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Registered: 27th Mar 04
Location: Ellesmere Port, Cheshire
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x14xe
de restricted air box with k&n panel filter
cat back ss 2.25" bore
98.7bhp
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Steve X16XE
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quote:
Originally posted by richard_cooper
What sort of difference would bigger injectors make to this sort of spec ?
mantzel
system
decat
manifold
264cams
headwork
remap
Bigger injectors, pointless. The standard ones will cope with that spec.
I'm guessing that you've got a 1.6. That is the spec that i am going for. It'll be around 135 - 140 bhp depending on who maps it and what your wanting from your engine.
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richard_cooper
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yeah i have a 1.6, i want that sort of spec. I want near 145bhp if possible with that spec. Get a good suspension set-up and go and do some proper track days.
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antmashed
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quote:
Originally posted by jr
quote:
Originally posted by antmashed
what about a x14xe on tb's
190bhp (if your keith piper)
who?
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richard_cooper
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I know a couple of the 1400 rallycars are running big bhp. But also big money in the engine
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peester
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Sbd's basic multiple throttle body kit with engine management; the same kit fits both x14xe and c/x16xe. Theyre website claims around 130bhp for a x14xe with that basic tb/management kit. Over 160 for the same kit on a c/x16xe. Pretty much 100bhp per litre for both those... without touching cams and headwork and so on.
Takes a fight to the vtec dudes.
Of course the latest fashion is the z18xe, as mentioned by warren.. the afore mentioned sbd t.b kit (with a different inlet manifold) also fits this engine. This (125bhp std) reportedly puts out 180ish bhp with the same t.b kit and its supposed to be 1.4/1.6 in size and weight (not big block)..?
Again, thats without touching cams, headwork etc. So there. No need to talk about big block. lol.
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antmashed
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quote:
Originally posted by peester
Takes a fight to the vtec dudes.
beating tec is the primary mission
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