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Nick-S
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Originally posted by Matty G
In Evo I got the impression they liked the ST 185 as an all round package over the others.


yep, re read it, and they loved it
tbf tho it was quite moddified, kw coliovers and such
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well you are saying the st150 is fords racey spec car, no its not the st185 will be

so the sri and st150 are in the exact same market

the st185 and vxr corsa are comparable


PMSL 106 gti would have the lot of them on track no joke...

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Originally posted by jr
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Originally posted by Matty G
In Evo I got the impression they liked the ST 185 as an all round package over the others.


yep, re read it, and they loved it
tbf tho it was quite moddified, kw coliovers and such


was the VXR not the 888 model and therefore also modified...
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Originally posted by Paul_J
quote:
Originally posted by Edd
well you are saying the st150 is fords racey spec car, no its not the st185 will be

so the sri and st150 are in the exact same market

the st185 and vxr corsa are comparable


PMSL 106 gti would have the lot of them on track no joke...

Grabs coat and runs out of the door


agree
Nick-S
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Originally posted by Matty G
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Originally posted by GSi_16v
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Originally posted by jr
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Originally posted by Matty G
In Evo I got the impression they liked the ST 185 as an all round package over the others.


yep, re read it, and they loved it
tbf tho it was quite moddified, kw coliovers and such


was the VXR not the 888 model and therefore also modified...
it did not have suspension mods like the st though
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Originally posted by Paul_J
Sorry I thought i'd elaborate on that a bit further.

Fiesta ST is a proper crap car. It's an embarressment to the 'ST' badge and all that everyone hears is that it's got 150 bhp and a 2.0 16v.

I think it must be the slowest 150 bhp 2.0 16v in existance. It's shocking how that car is a hatch back, with 150 bhp, but so slow.

I hate so many modern cars, they're all soooo heavy. A Astra VXR needs 240 bhp to pull it along just to get it to be slightly quicker than some 90's hot hatches.


the new st thats beeing reviwed is the st185, which is an st150 with an optional mountune pack on it
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Originally posted by GSi_16v
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Originally posted by jr
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Originally posted by Matty G
In Evo I got the impression they liked the ST 185 as an all round package over the others.


yep, re read it, and they loved it
tbf tho it was quite moddified, kw coliovers and such


still a car from the factory, the vxr 888 was hardly standard either
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Originally posted by GSi_16v
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Originally posted by Matty G
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Originally posted by GSi_16v
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Originally posted by jr
quote:
Originally posted by Matty G
In Evo I got the impression they liked the ST 185 as an all round package over the others.


yep, re read it, and they loved it
tbf tho it was quite moddified, kw coliovers and such


was the VXR not the 888 model and therefore also modified...
it did not have suspension mods like the st though


no it had more power, a diffrent exhaust and massive brakes
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4th Mar 08 at 16:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

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Originally posted by GSi_16v
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Originally posted by jr
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Originally posted by Matty G
In Evo I got the impression they liked the ST 185 as an all round package over the others.


yep, re read it, and they loved it
tbf tho it was quite moddified, kw coliovers and such


as said, it isn't exactly a modified car as such, because it's just an upgrade pack from standard.

who cares if the st150 is slow for what it is? it's not all about out right speed and power but how you drive it that makes it a great experience.

you can't tell me that speed counts for much down twisty country lanes?
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Originally posted by Paul_J
end of the day the Sri isn't the 'racey' spec corsa... the VXR is.

The ST is fiestas 'racey' fiesta model.

Fiesta ST vs Corsa VXR and Corsa would've beat it hands down.


Totally Agree mate!!!
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Bollox I missed it


Drives supercharged Tec with torque
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Originally posted by Ben G
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Originally posted by GSi_16v
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Originally posted by jr
quote:
Originally posted by Matty G
In Evo I got the impression they liked the ST 185 as an all round package over the others.


yep, re read it, and they loved it
tbf tho it was quite moddified, kw coliovers and such


as said, it isn't exactly a modified car as such, because it's just an upgrade pack from standard.

who cares if the st150 is slow for what it is? it's not all about out right speed and power but how you drive it that makes it a great experience.

you can't tell me that speed counts for much down twisty country lanes?


point is, corsa vxr would handle just as well and go quicker down the straights... Corsa VXR should've been contested against the Fiesta St150 in a shoot out... as they're both in the same 'class' as the hottest hatch of that model.

Instead they got an Sri which is probably classed as a 'comfortable, semi sporty car for every day use...' so obviously it won't be as focussed on a track as a fiesta St is.

St185 vs Corsa VXR and VXR will win imo.
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4th Mar 08 at 18:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

not according to evo
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i'm not so sure, 190bhp 1.6t vs 185bhp 2.0 n/a, close one but it's not all about power
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The SRi is a luke warm hatch aimed to be softer. So the ST is also in the same bracket too in terms of price, performance and being a luke warm hatch.

The ST180 and the VXR Corsa are a good comparison in this case I rather think the standard ST 150 vs the SRi is a good match

As for the ST180 it was thr slowest car in the test between a 197 cup and VXR but it was just more pliable as a track car and it won on the merits of its drive.

Now put all three of them cars on a dry track and the VXR Corsa may be on top i reckon in terms of pace.
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quote:
Originally posted by Daniel_Corsa
Know which of the two I would rather own personally having driven both the Fiesta MK6 and Corsa D

The Evo magazine test on the

Corsa VXR
Clio 197
Fiesta ST
Lancia Delta

Had more interesting results and better comparrisons, 5th gear is one of the worst motoring programs made!


Quite, anything up against a Vauxhall, and the Vauxhall will always lose.
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Random i know but the subaru which was up for the prize the other week, the man over the road has won it, its quite nice in the flesh :thumb:
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twat i wanted that!
Charlene
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They got a grand towards insurance and a grand for petrol for the year
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Originally posted by Fad
As for the ST180 it was thr slowest car in the test between a 197 cup and VXR but it was just more pliable as a track car and it won on the merits of its drive.

do you not think the vxr could be better set up with some choise suspension mods tho like the st185


quote:
Originally posted by jr
not according to evo
the vxr set the fasted lap time tho

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