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IvIarkgraham
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13th Dec 07 at 08:19   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i looked into doing it but couldnt afford the loan repayments
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Originally posted by STEvieXE
for the money for the vxr being compared with a let, the vxr will be more or less a brand new engine whereas the let will be tired and need rebuilt/freshinging


As said i would rather have a near enough new/ low mileage engine then an old LET, im not putting down the engine in anyway this engine is much less likely to give any problems for atleast 50k miles

plus you wouldnt have to invest so much in trying to get your car setup for handling due to the lighter weight of the engine.

in more day to day thinking im sure this will be alot easier when it comes to changing parts when they do break such as starters/ alternators etc
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iirc the imobiliser is wired through the stereo and clocks though. will need to find a way around that.


this is true! i know that chris has them in his garage!

what happens if you want a aftermarket cd player then???
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quote:
Originally posted by davcohen
quote:
Originally posted by STEvieXE
for the money for the vxr being compared with a let, the vxr will be more or less a brand new engine whereas the let will be tired and need rebuilt/freshinging


As said i would rather have a near enough new/ low mileage engine then an old LET, im not putting down the engine in anyway this engine is much less likely to give any problems for atleast 50k miles




no difference as soon as you make any respectable power all the parts will be changed for aftermarket anyway
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I wont be using standard management, converting it over to DTA, will be replacing the FBW throttle body with a large manually operated throttle body.

The engine is installed with the F15 to ensure the engine is mounted in the correct place whilst i do the engine mount, once this is done i will be removing the F15 and refitting the M32 and making the gearbox mounts for that.

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People writing them off already


Well given the age group that Vauxhall were targetting with that type of car...........are you really surprised?
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben ev
quote:
Originally posted by davcohen
quote:
Originally posted by STEvieXE
for the money for the vxr being compared with a let, the vxr will be more or less a brand new engine whereas the let will be tired and need rebuilt/freshinging





no difference as soon as you make any respectable power all the parts will be changed for aftermarket anyway


granted but bearing in mind not everyone wants 300+bhp



cant wait to see this and find out wot kinda money the conversion will take...
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i wouldnt say to much more then a LET again goes back to the fact the engine doesnt need to be rebuilt or in this case even have its first service lol
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it think it would be cheaper to build a let nova in standard form but i think as a project this has more potential than a let nova or corsa, i have some very interesting plans for the car which will be shown shortly! I hoping to have it compeled by end of march if all goes to plan and i don.t run out of funds before then.

Chris.
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Finally got some more done on the nova, completed the engine mount on the drivers side which has included some strengthening to the inner wing.






Next job is to remove the F15 gearbox and fit the M32 6 speed then fabricate the 2 gearbox mounts.

Progress can also be followed here on my own forum

http://www.chrisastleymotorsport.com/forums/showthread.php?p=25#post25

Chris.
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great project there you outbid me on that
Ste L
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chris - get a proper thread up in the project's
deano87
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This is going to be immense imho.
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my mates been telling me about this, you ahve been sorting some gearbox stuff and his seat on his 106 rally i think. looks good
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i want mine doing now
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This is going be be awsome
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This is going be be awsome


here here
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quote:
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iirc the imobiliser is wired through the stereo and clocks though. will need to find a way around that.


its not, astras are i think through the can-bus system but the corsa arn't done programmed to the clocks and radio
Ste L
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben ev
iirc the imobiliser is wired through the stereo and clocks though. will need to find a way around that.


its not, astras are i think through the can-bus system but the corsa arn't done programmed to the clocks and radio



doesn't matter either way - it's going on standaone management, so that wont affect it
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that looks clean as owt m8y good job will look even better when finished
work in progress still, should be different when done...



http://www.migweb.co.uk/forums/projects-restorations/340122-nova-corsa-vxr-engine-gearbox.html
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Ive been reading this on migweb

Will be brill when its done

Good luck with it Chris!
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Chris, when you say you're using the F15 to mount it correctly, but then changing to the M32 gearbox, are you saying they are the same fitment, ie. bellhousing matches?

I know you can't fit big block gearboxes such as F16, F20 and F28 to the smallblock XE's like X16XE etc, but is it possible to fit the M32 to one?
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All bellhousing patterns are the same with vauxhall. You can also use big block gearboxes on small block engines, i have put many quaife F20 Quaife boxes into Nova's and corsa's running 1.6 16v engines with big bhp.
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yea, same as you can fit an f13 or f15 to a valver, if you use different flywheel and clutch
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This F13 n F15 gearboxes fitted to a c20xe doesn't work, believe me!! Myself and sparke tried it bk in our early days of conversions.. Changing the clutch and flywheel doesn't make an ounce of difference, because the imput shaft is slightly smaller and has less splines to the f16 and f20 gearboxes.. This is why its better to use the f16 or f20 box and buy some mk2 cavvy inner cv joints so you can use your standard 22spline drive shafts.. If it was possible all the f13 n f15 gearboxes would just smash themselves to bits because they weren't designed to handle the power of a c20xe..

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